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Title: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: Suzi Q on February 27, 2017, 11:13:58 AM
Under the gauge cluster and at the top of the steering stem is a 4 point spindle nut with an outside diameter of 40mm and a torque spec of like 50 lbs. Anybody have any idea where the heck to get the right sized socket for the torque wrench? I know about the technique involving a drift/hammer, but I'm hoping to be a little more exact.

Thanks
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: The Buddha on February 27, 2017, 12:03:52 PM
A drift punch ??? a nice 45 degree angle cut 1/4" square steel rod ?? I dunno, you're supposed to be able to move it with a dowel used like a punch. Its easier, and you can do it all assembled. You can try to get a spanner type thing on it too, no idea.
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Buddha.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: qcbaker on February 27, 2017, 12:06:51 PM
When I spun the spindle nut off and on when doing my front end, I didn't even use a wrench... I just took a larger set of needlenose pliers and opened them so that each nose went into the parallel notches on the spindle nut and then twisted the nut off and on that way. I didn't even know there was a torque spec for that nut. I guess it makes sense though, considering its holding the steering stem on lol.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: The Buddha on February 27, 2017, 12:11:26 PM
Torque specs on it IMHO is this.
Hand tight and back off 1/8th turn if new and prepare to adjust it again a few rides later.
Hand tight and back off 1/4 turn almost if reusing an old bearing that's been cleaned and re lubed with fresh new synthetic grease.
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Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: Suzi Q on February 27, 2017, 12:34:41 PM
Suzuki's spec is 32.5 pounds, so I'm trying to find the proper tool for the job. Thanks for the input though!
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: Suzi Q on February 27, 2017, 12:36:29 PM
Nevermind. Apparently I just needed the right google keywords.

http://www.gbmotorcycleproducts.com/index.php?route=product/search&search=gs500%20steering%20stem%20nut%20socket and also on ebay.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: The Buddha on February 28, 2017, 10:11:09 AM
You tighten the bearing nut to 32.5 ft lb and I can guarantee you, the bike will not turn ... ever.
32.5 may be the upper to lower tighten against each other torque, so they wont come loose.
Sorry, AI was giving you the lower one's tightening procedure.
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Buddha.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: Suzi Q on February 28, 2017, 11:55:42 AM
I don't know. It says "steering stem head nut" and 32.5 pounds. Guess I'll try it and see.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/791753/Suzuki-Gs500-F.html?page=15#manual
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: The Buddha on February 28, 2017, 12:04:14 PM
Be very very careful as you start cranking the thing. keep testing the steering for  - well movement, cos I believe you'd knacker the bearings long before you get to 32.5. As you tighten it stop where the steering starts to feel off, and back off to where it feels right, regardless of your torque.
I'm pretty certain 32.5 is the locking torque - BTW what is the locking torque speced in the book ?
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Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: Suzi Q on February 28, 2017, 12:16:17 PM
The manual says to tighten to spec (32.5 for F's, 36 for E's)

Then turn the lower bracket "5 or 6 times" to seat the tapered bearings

Then back off 1/4 to 1/2 turn, which will vary from motorcycle to motorcycle.

It's at the bottom of page 6-21 here:

http://www.carlsalter.com/pdfs/Suzuki_GS500E_89-99.pdf
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: The Buddha on February 28, 2017, 01:52:15 PM
OK, I'll be turning it as you climb the torque specs. I cant imagine it will stand 32.5 or 36. The new bearings have plastic cages and they can easily break, of course I put metal cage tapered rollers in any bike I take the neck off in.

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Buddha.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: Suzi Q on February 28, 2017, 03:12:30 PM
uhhh yeah. ain't no plastic cages goin' in muh bike.

I ordered the socket, will post back with results.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: the_63 on February 28, 2017, 03:22:25 PM
20 QUID?!! THAT'S 30 VK AT THE UNI BAR!  :cookoo:


Chris
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Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: Suzi Q on February 28, 2017, 03:30:48 PM
I don't understand what you're saying. I couldn't find it anywhere else though. It does seem obnoxious.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: the_63 on February 28, 2017, 03:51:09 PM
VK are a bottled alcopop drink in the uk. The learning institution I attend sells them 3 for £2. For £20 I could get soooo tipsy! Just seems steep for a tool you won't use very often.

Chris
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Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: Suzi Q on February 28, 2017, 04:37:36 PM
I concur
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: gsJack on February 28, 2017, 06:21:41 PM
I adjusted the the steering stem bearings on one of my GS's some years ago but didn't buy any expensive tool like that, probably used a large pair of arc joint pliers.  Worked out fine but I had adjusted tapered auto, truck wheel bearings many times using arc joint pliers.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: J_Walker on February 28, 2017, 08:22:19 PM
Ohh yeah.. I hacked up a big ol' socket with a dremel for a DIY one.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: pliskin on March 01, 2017, 02:58:55 PM
The "Stem Head Nut" is the one on the top of the triple. I think the one he is talking about is the round slotted one under the triple. TI can see the head nut torque at 32lbs but the one that adjust with the spanner should gently hand tight.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: The Buddha on March 01, 2017, 03:02:01 PM
Quote from: pliskin on March 01, 2017, 02:58:55 PM
The "Stem Head Nut" is the one on the top of the triple. I think the one he is talking about is the round slotted one under the triple. TI can see the head nut torque at 32lbs but the one that adjust with the spanner should gently hand tight.

The tool in that picture wasn't for anything but those 2 locking things under the triple.
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Buddha.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: rg500gamma on March 01, 2017, 05:36:09 PM
the tool did not come with the bike in the tool kit ?
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: Janx101 on March 01, 2017, 06:09:58 PM
.... Maaaaate!... The gs500 toolkit? .. Folk consider themselves lucky if the kit contains the rear shock adjuster!  ... Or even that the kit is present!!.... Having a socket to fit that slotted nut would be like finding the keys to fort knox and a timetable for guard patrols in your letterbox! ;)
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: sdrogue on March 01, 2017, 10:16:42 PM
Custom made tools exist on ebay. I almost bought one when I recently redid my steering bearings but elected to use a drift to remove the lock-nut. I reinstalled hand tight and gave it one light tap to secure it and tension was fine. 30+ ft. lbs. seems excessive.
Title: Re: Steering Bearing Adjuster Tool Source?
Post by: J_Walker on March 02, 2017, 01:04:12 AM
Quote from: Janx101 on March 01, 2017, 06:09:58 PM
.... Maaaaate!... The gs500 toolkit? .. Folk consider themselves lucky if the kit contains the rear shock adjuster!  ... Or even that the kit is present!!.... Having a socket to fit that slotted nut would be like finding the keys to fort knox and a timetable for guard patrols in your letterbox! ;)

HAH! my hacked up piece of crap, has its OEM tool kit with it! no such adjuster in it..

well, can't say "with it" as its probably in my garage with the rest of the "usless tools" the only one I know where's at, is the shock adjuster. so do I win a prize? or do I have to show I actually have it all? because that wont happen, LOL