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Post by: gs500canada on August 05, 2017, 08:17:30 PM
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Title: Re: Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: J_Walker on August 05, 2017, 10:53:13 PM
Check oil level [when the oil gets low the GS gets louder, its how you know its time for a change... ;) ]

Make sure you're running OEM spec sparkplugs.

and you're sure its a TICK and not a PING?
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Post by: gs500canada on August 06, 2017, 06:39:28 AM
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Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: gs500canada on August 09, 2017, 05:56:05 AM
Anyone?
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Post by: Bluesmudge on August 09, 2017, 12:45:04 PM
I am not hearing much of anything in that video.

Are you sure its coming from inside the engine? Could it be loose headers or something else loose on the bike?
How many miles on the current oil change?
Are you saying it sounds totally fine below 4,000 rpm? If so, that makes me think something somewhere is just loose.
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Post by: gs500canada on August 10, 2017, 06:29:34 PM
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Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: Endopotential on August 10, 2017, 10:04:25 PM
I was going to reply that using car oil would be a bad idea, because motorcycle clutches would slip with all the extra friction modifiers etc...  And if the clutch slipped at higher rpm's it could cause the noise?

But then doing some research on using car oil on bikes, it looks like it's not entirely forbidden.
End of this link   http://wiki.gstwins.com/index.php?n=Maintenance.EngineOil

Or is this opening up a whole new can of worms for another thread?
Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: 1018cc on August 11, 2017, 01:37:20 AM
Quote from: Endopotential on August 10, 2017, 10:04:25 PM
But then doing some research on using car oil on bikes, it looks like it's not entirely forbidden.
End of this link   http://wiki.gstwins.com/index.php?n=Maintenance.EngineOil

I use diesel engine oil in my bike. Just have to check that it is ok to use for wet clutches. Some machinery has wet clutches. This is what I use:
QuoteIt is also suitable for use in petrol and LPG engines as a mixed fleet oil and can be used in motorcycles with wet clutches. (http://penriteoil.com.au/products/hpr-diesel-10-10w-40-semi-syn)

Plus - you don't pay motorcycle tax on it. Obviously if you never ride your bike and do an oil change when you feel like it, it probably doesn't matter. I do 3 - 4 oil changes a year and I haven't had a problem with the above.
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Post by: ShowBizWolf on August 11, 2017, 11:44:13 AM
Awesome link Endo :thumb:

It's amazing how I know my way around the forum and the wiki but when I was reading up on oils, it never occurred to me to check the wiki for information like that :oops: :icon_rolleyes:
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Post by: gs500canada on August 11, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
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Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on August 11, 2017, 05:16:30 PM
Quote from: Endopotential on August 10, 2017, 10:04:25 PM
I was going to reply that using car oil would be a bad idea, because motorcycle clutches would slip with all the extra friction modifiers etc...  And if the clutch slipped at higher rpm's it could cause the noise?

But then doing some research on using car oil on bikes, it looks like it's not entirely forbidden.
End of this link   http://wiki.gstwins.com/index.php?n=Maintenance.EngineOil

Or is this opening up a whole new can of worms for another thread?
can of worms has been opened MANY times lol. ive used car oils on bikes (specially the gs') without the clatter.  maybe it was mentioned, but how many miles?  m  r  kilomeoters?o
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Post by: gs500canada on August 11, 2017, 06:31:11 PM
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Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on August 11, 2017, 06:53:51 PM
I wonder if perhaps it might be a valve clearance issue?
Aaron
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Post by: gs500canada on August 11, 2017, 09:39:26 PM
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Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: gs500canada on August 12, 2017, 06:07:45 PM
Tightened up the exhaust gasket bolts and that resulted in less engine noise. Still there, but less. Should I replace the gaskets? And while I am at it I can do the bolt mod, but I cant find the posts about it and what kit to use.
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Post by: gs500canada on August 15, 2017, 08:33:47 AM
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Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: ShowBizWolf on August 15, 2017, 12:00:37 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the exhaust gaskets are a one-time use thing. When I dug mine out they were terrible lol! Bought new OEM ones and at the same time replaced the rusty bolts with stainless studs and nuts (there's a link in my project thread about the kit I found on eBay and additional info on that). I also remember reading that after reinstalling the exhaust with new gaskets, it's good to check the bolts to make sure they are snug after the first ride.

Dunno if that'll help ya any, it's just bits of info I've come across over the years.
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Post by: gs500canada on August 15, 2017, 07:51:31 PM
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Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on August 15, 2017, 09:05:55 PM
I've used the GTX without an issue. But if the bike oil does the job, go for it my friend, oils aside shouldn't have clatter AT ALL. You've succeeded inquieting it down, now its time to ssilence it Eh?
Aaron
Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: ShowBizWolf on August 16, 2017, 01:14:07 AM
Not a problem at all!  :cheers: About halfway down the page:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=70880.160
Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: The Buddha on August 16, 2017, 07:12:09 AM
CCT can be checked. with it properly installed and with valve cover removed - turn the motor over - either via the back wheel or the advancer (like they want you to do in the manual). But keep your eye on the part of the chain between the 2 cam sprockets. If it ever sags below the tops of those sprockets - your CCT is toast.
Having said that - your GS sounds pretty much normal or the sound is horrible in my laptop (which it does).

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on August 16, 2017, 09:04:06 AM
the buddha is wise,. the buddha is powerful :D. could the cct be clattering against the valve cover, ( since sound is predominantly at top?)
Aaron
Title: Re: HELP Please. Engine Ringing / Metal on Metal from 4k rpm and UP
Post by: The Buddha on August 16, 2017, 09:16:21 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on August 16, 2017, 09:04:06 AM
the buddha is wise,. the buddha is powerful :D. could the cct be clattering against the valve cover, ( since sound is predominantly at top?)
Aaron

You hear a odd top end type sound in that video ??? sheesh, the Buddha is deaf, or has a really shiity sound card in this crappiee laptop.

Cool.
Buddha.
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Post by: gs500canada on August 16, 2017, 01:05:23 PM
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