SV650 2018 ? do not see any at Berts Motorcycles in Covina California , maybe after January 2018 ? anyone heard any news ?
(https://motorcyclesrelease.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/new-Suzuki-SV650-ABS.jpg)
ooh das nice
https://motorcyclesrelease.com/2017/03/24/2018-suzuki-sv650-abs-engine/
:dunno_black:
(https://motorcyclesrelease.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Suzuki-SV650-ABS.jpg)
– For 2018, Suzuki presents another form of a notable bike that encapsulates the energetic identity that lone a vivacious, moderate sized V-twin roadster can convey. The new SV650 ABS* has a cleaned powerplant that furnishes expanded execution with low emanations and extraordinary efficiency, mated to refined trim and lightweight frame that conveys an energetic, energizing ride. Like its forerunners, the 2017 SV650 ABS guarantees to have the shimmering execution, style and esteem that a wide scope of riders will appreciate.
Fluid cooled, 645cc, 4-stroke, DOHC, V-twin motor conveys expanded execution.
Refined EFI framework with Low RPM Assist makes departures smooth and wonderful.
Trellis-style outline developed of high-quality steel tubes adds to the cruiser's lower weight and trim frame.
Thin bodywork is stylishly satisfying while helping solace and mobility.
Adapted Suzuki "S" 3-D insignias on the fuel tank and the fork upper section signifies the quality, advancement and execution legacy of the brand.
An assortment of Genuine Suzuki Accessories for SV proprietors will be accessible.
645cc DOHC 90°V-twin motor has been refined with more than 60 new parts to deliver expanded drive while adjusting the most recent emanation necessities.
The vitality proficient motor has new cylinders that were designed with utilization of FEM (Finite Element Method) examination to accomplish ideal unbending nature and weight.
Suzuki's creative L-formed cylinder rings add to lessen pass up gas, bringing about less outflows and more prominent burning productivity.
The Engine Control Module (ECM) gives cutting edge motor administration and has improved settings to suit the admission and fumes frameworks, bringing about better mileage and straight throttle reaction.
The TI-ISC on the SV650 has a new Low RPM Assist highlight that consistently alters motor speed amid take-off and low-speed racing to smooth the power conveyance and to help dispose of the likelihood of the rider slowing down the cruiser.
The SV650 highlights another Suzuki Easy Start framework (which was initially included on the GSX-S1000) gives the rider a chance to begin the bike with a passing press of the begin switch without pulling in the grip lever when the transmission is in nonpartisan.
The new fumes framework has a spotless, useful appearance and lower weight. The 2-into-1 framework has a catalyzer to additionally lessen discharges.
The recently composed, high-effectiveness radiator has a broadened cooling fan for remarkable cooling limit. To further control temperature, the motor is likewise fitted with a coolant-cooled, oil cooler that is smaller and lightweight.
The prepared to-ride weight of the NEW SV650 ABS is 18 pounds not exactly the 2015 SFV650 ABS. The check weight of the new SV650 is 15 pounds not exactly the SFV650.
The high-quality steel, trellis-style casing is critical to the bike's trim and canny measurements. The seat tallness is only 785mm (30.9 in.) and is the most minimal in the 600 – 800cc road bicycle class.
The casing is mated to a steel, shaft sort swingarm with a direct chain strain agent framework.
Electronically monitored slowing mechanism System (ABS*) screens wheel speed 50 times for every wheel turn, and matches ceasing energy to accessible footing.
Thoughtfulness regarding rider solace and certainty incorporates a deliberately formed seat with a high-hold cover, and coordinated payload maintenance circles that can haul out from under the seat.
Dashing stripes and refined fuel tank shape upgrades the cruiser's lively character. Fuel tank limit is an adequate 14.5L (3.8 US lady), CA display (13.8L, 3.6 US lady).
The 17 has been out, this does seem to be around the time we might start seeing 18 models pop up in dealerships. Haven't seen any locally, then again I don't make a habit out of window-shopping for bikes.
The bike I'm most interested to ride is the GSX250R, next time Suzuki is in town I'll have to make sure I get off work.
Quote from: Watcher on September 26, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
... I don't make a habit out of window-shopping for bikes.
If browsing Craigslist counts as window-shopping I do it all the time lol.
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The bike I'm most interested to ride is the GSX250R, next time Suzuki is in town I'll have to make sure I get off work.
Honestly, if that bike were available when I first started riding, I might have bought it. I love the way it looks.
Yup, still a rebadged Gheydius with a sheiteiy steel frame.
The kawi 650 with a parallel twin seems to be the GS'es logical progression.
Or the BMW's F some or other.
Cool.
Buddha.
kawi 650 isn't NAKED! only counts if its naked. :laugh:
sv650 for me :thumb:
I wanna sit on one, and ride one for 30 minutes. seems like the handle bars is in that "Gs500" spot. too far forward, not far enough back, or not enough forward... the one thing that appealed to me on my 02 sv, was the clipons I could easily ride that thing 2 hours to the beach without shoulder pain, unlike my GS. also what happened to the 1000 SV? Lol
also why would anyone that knew better.. I love the SV's engine. don't get me wrong... but
SV650; $7,000 MSRP
Naked GSXR750z; $8,900 MSRP.
Idk, I'm a fan of the KTM super duke, and was hoping by now the SV line would "Grow up" to fill that missing Japanese once held decent market of V-twin POWERRRRR but I guess no more TL1000s, or RC51s... a thing of the past, horse power sells to dumb dumbs.. and I'm not about to drop 18,000 USD on a superduke either! HAH! no way.
SV1Ks are getting harder and harder to find. Trust me, in 08 when I got one, there were like 20 around and cheap, I had to trip over 2 TL's on my way to get it too. Now, not a 1.
I love the fact that 650 parts are a swap for lots of the body parts. Dinged up tank - no worry, 650 tanks are same, tail, seat etc etc all same as 650.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on September 26, 2017, 06:49:53 AM
(https://motorcyclesrelease.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/new-Suzuki-SV650-ABS.jpg)
ooh das nice
https://motorcyclesrelease.com/2017/03/24/2018-suzuki-sv650-abs-engine/
:dunno_black:
(https://motorcyclesrelease.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Suzuki-SV650-ABS.jpg)
– For 2018, Suzuki presents another form of a notable bike that encapsulates the energetic identity that lone a vivacious, moderate sized V-twin roadster can convey. The new SV650 ABS* has a cleaned powerplant that furnishes expanded execution with low emanations and extraordinary efficiency, mated to refined trim and lightweight frame that conveys an energetic, energizing ride. Like its forerunners, the 2017 SV650 ABS guarantees to have the shimmering execution, style and esteem that a wide scope of riders will appreciate.
Fluid cooled, 645cc, 4-stroke, DOHC, V-twin motor conveys expanded execution.
Refined EFI framework with Low RPM Assist makes departures smooth and wonderful.
Trellis-style outline developed of high-quality steel tubes adds to the cruiser's lower weight and trim frame.
Thin bodywork is stylishly satisfying while helping solace and mobility.
Adapted Suzuki "S" 3-D insignias on the fuel tank and the fork upper section signifies the quality, advancement and execution legacy of the brand.
An assortment of Genuine Suzuki Accessories for SV proprietors will be accessible.
645cc DOHC 90°V-twin motor has been refined with more than 60 new parts to deliver expanded drive while adjusting the most recent emanation necessities.
The vitality proficient motor has new cylinders that were designed with utilization of FEM (Finite Element Method) examination to accomplish ideal unbending nature and weight.
Suzuki's creative L-formed cylinder rings add to lessen pass up gas, bringing about less outflows and more prominent burning productivity.
The Engine Control Module (ECM) gives cutting edge motor administration and has improved settings to suit the admission and fumes frameworks, bringing about better mileage and straight throttle reaction.
The TI-ISC on the SV650 has a new Low RPM Assist highlight that consistently alters motor speed amid take-off and low-speed racing to smooth the power conveyance and to help dispose of the likelihood of the rider slowing down the cruiser.
The SV650 highlights another Suzuki Easy Start framework (which was initially included on the GSX-S1000) gives the rider a chance to begin the bike with a passing press of the begin switch without pulling in the grip lever when the transmission is in nonpartisan.
The new fumes framework has a spotless, useful appearance and lower weight. The 2-into-1 framework has a catalyzer to additionally lessen discharges.
The recently composed, high-effectiveness radiator has a broadened cooling fan for remarkable cooling limit. To further control temperature, the motor is likewise fitted with a coolant-cooled, oil cooler that is smaller and lightweight.
The prepared to-ride weight of the NEW SV650 ABS is 18 pounds not exactly the 2015 SFV650 ABS. The check weight of the new SV650 is 15 pounds not exactly the SFV650.
The high-quality steel, trellis-style casing is critical to the bike's trim and canny measurements. The seat tallness is only 785mm (30.9 in.) and is the most minimal in the 600 – 800cc road bicycle class.
The casing is mated to a steel, shaft sort swingarm with a direct chain strain agent framework.
Electronically monitored slowing mechanism System (ABS*) screens wheel speed 50 times for every wheel turn, and matches ceasing energy to accessible footing.
Thoughtfulness regarding rider solace and certainty incorporates a deliberately formed seat with a high-hold cover, and coordinated payload maintenance circles that can haul out from under the seat.
Dashing stripes and refined fuel tank shape upgrades the cruiser's lively character. Fuel tank limit is an adequate 14.5L (3.8 US lady), CA display (13.8L, 3.6 US lady).
What the crap language was this translated from.
You ever hear of a Nonpartisan transmission ?
How about rider solace ?
How about low emanations ???
Cool.Buddha.
Quote from: J_Walker on September 27, 2017, 09:48:38 AM
kawi 650 isn't NAKED! only counts if its naked. :laugh:
https://m.kawasaki.com/Product/details/2018-Z650-ABS
Quote from: Watcher on September 27, 2017, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on September 27, 2017, 09:48:38 AM
kawi 650 isn't NAKED! only counts if its naked. :laugh:
https://m.kawasaki.com/Product/details/2018-Z650-ABS
That thing is fugly. They put good stuff in it IMHO, that swingarm and the parallel twin plus its narrower than the retarded radiator on the SV650 - but that tail and the plasticy crap all over and the damn headlight - what a piece of garbage look.
I'll be buying another GS and riding slowly if these were my only choices.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on September 27, 2017, 08:59:37 PM
Quote from: Watcher on September 27, 2017, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on September 27, 2017, 09:48:38 AM
kawi 650 isn't NAKED! only counts if its naked. :laugh:
https://m.kawasaki.com/Product/details/2018-Z650-ABS
That thing is fugly. They put good stuff in it IMHO, that swingarm and the parallel twin plus its narrower than the retarded radiator on the SV650 - but that tail and the plasticy crap all over and the damn headlight - what a piece of garbage look.
I'll be buying another GS and riding slowly if these were my only choices.
Cool.
Buddha.
(https://i.imgflip.com/1wnzcf.jpg)
LOL, or we hack off all the plasticky crap off the Z650 and hammer that retarded load of cow dung headlight into a circle.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on September 27, 2017, 09:08:44 PM
LOL, or we hack off all the plasticky crap off the Z650 and hammer that retarded load of cow dung headlight into a circle.
Cool.
Buddha.
*redacted* I WILL NOT BUY A NEW BIKE.
I wish Kawi would start using the Z1000 chain adjuster system on more bikes.
For those not familiar, they set the axle offset in a larger ring that gets clamped in the swing-arm. No more tightening a screw/nut to pull the wheel back and having to work both sides to stay straight, just loosen the clamp, rotate the ring "back" to desired tension, tighten clamp.
Quote from: Watcher on September 28, 2017, 09:47:10 AM
I wish Kawi would start using the Z1000 chain adjuster system on more bikes.
For those not familiar, they set the axle offset in a larger ring that gets clamped in the swing-arm. No more tightening a screw/nut to pull the wheel back and having to work both sides to stay straight, just loosen the clamp, rotate the ring "back" to desired tension, tighten clamp.
they got one of these on cheap electric chainsaws at lowes. :icon_lol:
(http://vividphase.com/ninja1k/N1K_chain_adjustment.jpg)
Quote from: qcbaker on September 27, 2017, 03:08:30 AM
Quote from: Watcher on September 26, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
... I don't make a habit out of window-shopping for bikes.
If browsing Craigslist counts as window-shopping I do it all the time lol.
Ha Ha...Browsing Craigslist bikes is part of my daily routine as well.
That eccentric axle carrier doubles a s a ride height adjuster too. Awesome design.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on September 30, 2017, 08:43:31 AM
That eccentric axle carrier doubles a s a ride height adjuster too. Awesome design.
Haha! I don't think I ever considered that.
I'm sure the adjustment doesn't amount to much...
Quote from: Watcher on September 30, 2017, 09:21:42 AM
I'm sure the adjustment doesn't amount to much...
It would if you could rotate the whole plot 180 degrees.
Getting back to the SV, I hope that saddle is more comfotable than it looks. Looks as though you would slide to the front and stay there.
Mind you, the GS saddle is nothing to write home about. Mine is starting to pull the seam apart at the step and I am considering a re-shape when it comes time to fixi it.
URRGHH THERES A XSR900 WITH MY NAME ON IT FOR ONLY 7,000 USD AT MY LOCAL DEALER SHIP...
only thing that has kept me from buying it, the bikes ECU limits it to 130mph, IT CAN TOTALLY DO MOREEEEE.
[read all of this in the way the regular car reviews guy would]
Quote from: J_Walker on September 30, 2017, 04:14:55 PM
only thing that has kept me from buying it, the bikes ECU limits it to 130mph, IT CAN TOTALLY DO MOREEEEE.
But why would you want it to (unless you're planning on tracking it)?
Quote from: Watcher on September 30, 2017, 11:21:20 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on September 30, 2017, 04:14:55 PM
only thing that has kept me from buying it, the bikes ECU limits it to 130mph, IT CAN TOTALLY DO MOREEEEE.
But why would you want it to (unless you're planning on tracking it)?
because MOARRRRRRRRRR IS BETTER.
no I seriously think that's stupid, meanwhile you have the R1... that is just as street legal as the 900, with no limits.. with way more top end power? wut.. they should have an option bike, that says "I've been riding longer then 6 months, gimmie da power mode!"
I mean yeah... you could probably re-tune? de-tune? the ECU. maybe throw on some bigger injectors [cause lets be real, EPA is up everyone's butts now] but doing that, on a brand new bike..? bye bye any sort of warranty.
Well, I've never really cared for numbers in a street bike, if I like the way a bike looks, sounds, "feels", and it's in my budget, I'll get it. It's governed to 130? Whatever, I'll likely not even break 100. Only reason I've gone faster than that on my Duc and my Buell is curiosity.
But that's just me.
Then again, to me Honda flip-flopping their horn and turn signal switch compared to everyone else is reason enough for me to not own one, at least so long as it's going to be an additional bike rather than a replacement bike.
the XSR900 is a yamaha?
that or I'm very tired and missed where this talk of honda's turn signal switch locations came from. lol
Quote from: J_Walker on October 01, 2017, 12:00:25 AM
the XSR900 is a yamaha?
that or I'm very tired and missed where this talk of honda's turn signal switch locations came from. lol
Yes, I know it's a Yamaha, I was just stating how some minor thing like switch placement on Hondas would make me not get them while to others they could care less.
Much like how a governed bike is a deal breaker for you but I wouldn't mind.
Re-reading what I wrote I can see where I could have worded it a little better.
ohhh I get it now. yeah.
it's not so much its governed at 130, its when it gets to 100mph it gets super sluggish because of it being governed.
Quote from: J_Walker on September 30, 2017, 11:44:20 PM
I mean yeah... you could probably re-tune? de-tune? the ECU. maybe throw on some bigger injectors [cause lets be real, EPA is up everyone's butts now] but doing that, on a brand new bike..? bye bye any sort of warranty.
You can do an ECU re-map to remove the restriction, and while yes, that would void your warranty, if anything happens you can always revert the ECU map back to stock before bringing it in for service and they would have no way to know that you had it re-mapped prior. Bigger injectors might be a bit harder to revert to stock before service.
Quote from: The Buddha on September 30, 2017, 08:43:31 AM
That eccentric axle carrier doubles a s a ride height adjuster too. Awesome design.
Cool.
Buddha.
That's a negative, not a positive IMO. :)
Back to the "new" SV650.
The motor is an OLD design from the late 80's , like the GS500.
It is way too big and heavy physically. Needs a redesign and a modern gearbox reshuffle to reduce both size and weight. A modern 2x325cc water cooled motor should be much smaller. Aprillia made a much smaller RXV 500 v twin a few years ago showing the size it should be . It was very unreliable because they insisted on titanium valves and that tech hadn't caught up yet. Some pics ( https://www.google.com.au/search?q=aprilia+rxv+450+motor&biw=2560&bih=1329&tbm=isch&source=iu&pf=m&ictx=1&fir=2_fK4RuHnI-XHM%253A%252CaT2dWaL4bc46UM%252C_&usg=__oBAiomUf92kikWlHrO0sHirbWWE%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJ-9i76eHWAhUDwLwKHSfXBXIQ9QEIKjAA#imgrc=chlfFp4PJMaW )
There is nothing wrong with a properly designed tubular frame for a road bike and KTM shows that it can be lighter than an Al one.
Quote from: RichDesmond on October 08, 2017, 06:36:23 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 30, 2017, 08:43:31 AM
That eccentric axle carrier doubles a s a ride height adjuster too. Awesome design.
Cool.
Buddha.
That's a negative, not a positive IMO. :)
Oh, I never had a bike with that, but what's the disadvantage ?
Cool.
Buddha
Ride height is an important parameter in setting up a bike's geometry, once you have it right you don't want to change it when you adjust the chain.
Not a big deal on a street bike, but a major PITA on a race bike.