I just bought a pair of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072QZV5FK/
They are basically a copy of the Rox Speed risers. In this case they are about 2" and can pivot to wherever you want to put them, combo of up and/or forward or back.
The finish quality is less than perfect, they are not machined parts like the Rox but instead are cast aluminum. I'm not impressed with the zinc-plated bolts but it's an easy upgrade to SS. They are a bit heavier than I expected, but I didn't weigh them.
For $30 I thought it was a solid deal.
Quote from: mr72 on July 24, 2018, 06:52:40 AM
I just bought a pair of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072QZV5FK/
They are basically a copy of the Rox Speed risers. In this case they are about 2" and can pivot to wherever you want to put them, combo of up and/or forward or back.
The finish quality is less than perfect, they are not machined parts like the Rox but instead are cast aluminum. I'm not impressed with the zinc-plated bolts but it's an easy upgrade to SS. They are a bit heavier than I expected, but I didn't weigh them.
For $30 I thought it was a solid deal.
Look alright, post a pic when you have them installed.
I installed them this morning. Unfortunately I managed to pull the choke cable loose from the carbs while doing it, so I need to go redo it. I took a picture, let me post it later.
My PSA would be to not support Chinese knock-offs of a patented made in USA product. This is a huge problem with Amazon and if we continue to always shop on price we will be left with inferior, unsafe, and uninspired products.
Rox is a USA company that put the time into the design, paid for the patent, and makes the product to a high standard in the United States. They also come with a lifetime warranty.
Interesting. I didn't know the Rox product was patented.
Anyway, nevermind then, y'all buy the legit stuff, which I'm sure will work just as well if not better. And lifetime warranty is pretty valuable.
However just to be honest, I would have never even considered buying the Rox product at 3x this price.
Oh I saw one of these a few yrs ago on a bike. One word of caution . Do not install them the way their picture shows.
Instead install them to the inside of the stock "pillow blocks" in the upper triple. Not the outside as the pic shows.
Then put in a spacer to take up the slack between the 2. So if they decide to "walk" they cant go anywhere they're mechanically in there.
Cool.
Buddha.
Word of warning. I bought some of these from ebay. One bolt broke immediately, and after replacing the bolts with decent ones a thread stripped in the alloy. I did not abuse them, they were tightened to about 16lb/ft with a torque wrench. In the end I drilled out the original threads entirely and a friend with access to a milling machine made some flat grooves in the bottom so the crappy alloy threads could be replaced with good quality nylock nuts.
Yeah, hardware quality was one of my complaints. Of course it's pretty easy to pull threads out on any aluminum part, whether it's cast or machined. I've done it plenty on far more expensive and so-called "quality" parts (bicycle frames, forks, etc.).
However, mine went on without incident, besides the fact that I broke my clutch cable, which was unrelated.
Here's a picture:
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Quote from: Bluesmudge on July 24, 2018, 09:57:07 AM
My PSA would be to not support Chinese knock-offs of a patented made in USA product. This is a huge problem with Amazon and if we continue to always shop on price we will be left with inferior, unsafe, and uninspired products.
Rox is a USA company that put the time into the design, paid for the patent, and makes the product to a high standard in the United States. They also come with a lifetime warranty.
but how can china afford to make 30dollar risers, why do risers need to cost more then 30 dollars to begin with? sorry but I made my own, by casting my own aluminum ones. but still...
Quote from: J_Walker on July 25, 2018, 08:38:25 PM
why do risers need to cost more then 30 dollars to begin with?
I don't know why risers of this design even
exist when changing the handlebars is generally cheaper, more aesthetically pleasing, and doesn't come with an added potential for failure...
The risers that are basically just spacers for the clamps make more sense to me as a temporary thing or a simple easy-to-install minor ergonomic adjustment, but something as complex and drastic as in the OP? Just buy some $20 handlebars that are taller...
Quote from: Watcher on July 25, 2018, 11:39:05 PM
I don't know why risers of this design even exist when changing the handlebars is generally cheaper, more aesthetically pleasing, and doesn't come with an added potential for failure...
Well, I would have to say the exist because there's a market demand for them. What I don't fully understand is why motorcycle manufacturers haven't solved this problem natively decades ago, when bicycles not only are sized to fit but it's a standard fit adjustment to change the clamp position of the handlebar by swapping stems. This is an obvious thing to make adjustable, and yet it is not. Anyway, I have theories on why we are where we are, but the result is aftermarket products to provide this basic adjustment.
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The risers that are basically just spacers for the clamps make more sense to me as a temporary thing or a simple easy-to-install minor ergonomic adjustment, but something as complex and drastic as in the OP? Just buy some $20 handlebars that are taller...
Taller handlebars don't address the problem really at all. And my handlebars are not $20, even if there were replacements I could get that would solve the problem.
There are at least four dimensions that matter here (probably more):
1. height of the handbar at the grip relative to the seat
2. horizontal distance of the handlebar grip from the seat
3. width of the handlebar
4. sweep angle of the handlebar at the grip.
Even if a taller handlebar were available that was otherwise identical to mine (which it's not), it doesn't address the distance of the handlebar horizontally from the seat. For that, MC handlebar manufacturers try to solve this with so-called "pull back", which also directly affects the sweep angle. So to keep sweep angle the same and change the position of the grip, the risers like I bought are ideal. At least they are a good short-term solution since they allow me to adjust and experiment before committing to another handlebar.
And BTW I did spend a ton of time trying to find an acceptable replacement handlebar as an alternative. Everything I considered was either too expensive, too cheaply made, or the wrong specs, and that's even if I gave up on keeping the sweep angle. Try and find a $20 alloy handlebar with 5.5" rise and 4.75" pullback.
I have three different handlebars so far for this bike, none of them fit me just right. Adding this riser made a huge difference right off the bat, and it's adjustable. I can sympathize with the complaint that this is a copy of a patented product, but besides that I can't see how this category of products is such a bad thing. Perhaps I'll be back here in 6 months reporting that they are broken, who knows. In the meantime, they made my own bike far more comfortable.
Quote from: J_Walker on July 25, 2018, 08:38:25 PM
but how can china afford to make 30dollar risers, why do risers need to cost more then 30 dollars to begin with? sorry but I made my own, by casting my own aluminum ones. but still...
Lower cost of living and lower salaries in China.