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Title: Valve cover bolt too much ham not enough bread.
Post by: J_Walker on September 23, 2018, 12:02:50 PM
so this is MY personal GS. so nobody freak out.

there's a first for everything. I noticed the valve cover head gasket was spitting some oil again. OEM gasket is on there, who knows.. anyway I always loosen the head bolts, and re-tighten them to torque normally it stops the leaks. the side that was leaking a bit had sand built up around the bolt so I took it out. to wipe it off with a clean rag. noticed as I pulled out the bolt, there was part of the threading wrapped around the bolt. apparently SOMEHOW the threading stripped in the cam cap. now the bolt wont torque to even 10 inch pounds.  :icon_mrgreen:

Half tempted to just tig the god damn valve cover on..

Oh suzuki, never again...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Valve cover bolt too much ham not enough bread.
Post by: Bluesmudge on September 24, 2018, 11:49:54 AM
Are you talking about the valve cover gasket or the head gasket? Also, which bolt? It sounds like you re torqued  the head but then you are talking about the cam cap? Did you apply the head bolt torque spec to the cam journal bolts? That would surely shear them.

Anyways, you have even worse luck than me with your GS. Is it the bike, or is it you?
Title: Re: Valve cover bolt too much ham not enough bread.
Post by: J_Walker on September 24, 2018, 10:17:55 PM
Quote from: Bluesmudge on September 24, 2018, 11:49:54 AM
Are you talking about the valve cover gasket or the head gasket? Also, which bolt? It sounds like you re torqued  the head but then you are talking about the cam cap? Did you apply the head bolt torque spec to the cam journal bolts? That would surely shear them.

Anyways, you have even worse luck than me with your GS. Is it the bike, or is it you?

100% the bike.

Have owned other Bikes, including suzuki's and worked on more then I can count now. - without issue, unless I'm dropping/crashing them.  :icon_mrgreen:

Never as much bad luck ju-ju as this damn GS. - I mean it threw a connecting rod bearing... can't wait until I can get a NEW bike and just drag this thing into an open field, fire as much lead into it as I can, maybe blow it up once or twice, and set it ablaze.

it's the Allen headed bolts on top of the valve cover with the rubber o-rings under them. they tighten into the cam boots.
Title: Re: Valve cover bolt too much ham not enough bread.
Post by: The Buddha on September 25, 2018, 01:35:38 AM
The cam caps get boogered up by people starting the threads wrong and cross threading a few and multiply that by a 1000 and in the end you're looking at a mess.
Helicoil works well in that location.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Valve cover bolt too much ham not enough bread.
Post by: J_Walker on September 25, 2018, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 25, 2018, 01:35:38 AM
The cam caps get boogered up by people starting the threads wrong and cross threading a few and multiply that by a 1000 and in the end you're looking at a mess.
Helicoil works well in that location.
Cool.
Buddha.

I was gonna ream and tap a bigger threading for a slightly larger bolt. and weld up a washer onto a regular bolt. and thread that in there... suppose a helicoil might be better.. whatever comes cheaper I suppose.
Title: Re: Valve cover bolt too much ham not enough bread.
Post by: Endopotential on September 25, 2018, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: J_Walker on September 24, 2018, 10:17:55 PMcan't wait until I can get a NEW bike and just drag this thing into an open field, fire as much lead into it as I can, maybe blow it up once or twice, and set it ablaze.

It'd be sad if you do that, but make sure you get it on video!  Poor GS  :sad:
Title: Re: Valve cover bolt too much ham not enough bread.
Post by: The Buddha on September 26, 2018, 02:38:20 AM
Quote from: J_Walker on September 25, 2018, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 25, 2018, 01:35:38 AM
The cam caps get boogered up by people starting the threads wrong and cross threading a few and multiply that by a 1000 and in the end you're looking at a mess.
Helicoil works well in that location.
Cool.
Buddha.

I was gonna ream and tap a bigger threading for a slightly larger bolt. and weld up a washer onto a regular bolt. and thread that in there... suppose a helicoil might be better.. whatever comes cheaper I suppose.

Helicoil spring things are dirt cheap ... its the install tool that's gonna get you. Maybe we should start a library service of those things ... but ofcourse those loaner things like the shim kit, the sliding hammer for the rotor etc etc managed to disappear and never come back.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Valve cover bolt too much ham not enough bread.
Post by: J_Walker on September 26, 2018, 01:51:58 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 26, 2018, 02:38:20 AM
Quote from: J_Walker on September 25, 2018, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 25, 2018, 01:35:38 AM
The cam caps get boogered up by people starting the threads wrong and cross threading a few and multiply that by a 1000 and in the end you're looking at a mess.
Helicoil works well in that location.
Cool.
Buddha.

I was gonna ream and tap a bigger threading for a slightly larger bolt. and weld up a washer onto a regular bolt. and thread that in there... suppose a helicoil might be better.. whatever comes cheaper I suppose.

Helicoil spring things are dirt cheap ... its the install tool that's gonna get you. Maybe we should start a library service of those things ... but ofcourse those loaner things like the shim kit, the sliding hammer for the rotor etc etc managed to disappear and never come back.
Cool.
Buddha.

I was thinking of Epoxying/JB welding a stud in there actually too.. many ways to skin the cat, hasn't been spewing oil from there last few miles. but I haven't really been riding all that much.