Ok. I'm pretty good with electrics but I don't want to pull everything apart of I don't have to.. so you bloody legends, plz help 😅
All blinkers on when left blinker is switched on and only right blinkers when right blinker is switched on...
Headlight wiring is exposed and I can't really tell which is which at the front.. but if I switch the blinkers wired on the front then all blinkers turn on when the right blinker is switched on and only the lefty's turn on when switches to left.
Surely it's not the switch but it seems like a short somewhere. Disconnecting one at a time when all are flashing keeps all others flashing.. this has me stumped..
Ok.. I might work this out with the trials I'm doing but I'll update this as I go...
When only the right blinkers are on, and the switch is on the right blinkers.. if I connect the left blinker to rights positive all turn on.
Okay I had mismatched blinkers. So I connected all of the new ones and regardless of how they're connected all are on.. how do new blinkers effect where a positive current flows ????
Are the new ones LED?
If so, you'll need a new flasher controller made for LEDs.
I have a new flasher.
How on earth are the new ones working when the switch isn't on them? How can they even have power flowing to them?
You need to do a diode mod. It gets power from the dash pilot light that's connected to both sides.
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More info here: https://www.customled.com/blogs/custom-led-product-information/4-way-hazard-blink-problem-on-motorcycles-with-led-turn-signals (https://www.customled.com/blogs/custom-led-product-information/4-way-hazard-blink-problem-on-motorcycles-with-led-turn-signals)
Thank you!
I had just found the answer. I'll add what I've learnt..
I thought I had switched to LED blinkers previously, 1. Because I'm an idiot, 2. Because the flash rate increased and I had to change the relay.
I had prepared for this and bought resistors. But when I looked into it and found that the flash problem was solved with a new relay I threw them out.
Now I understand adding the resistors isn't just to fix the flash rate but also more load to fix the 4 blinker problem. But that isn't fixing the problem at the source. Don't worry about the resistors, to do it properly get the diode kit and a new relay.
Always appreciate this forum. Thank you.
Oh I'll likely disconnect the indicator light as a quick fix and do the diodes later. Thanks again.
Glad to be of help.
Btw, you don't need diode kits. Just get two diodes as per the diagram and solder them in, close to the pilot light.
You need the diode mod resistors or not. FYI.
Ok. So the indicator light has the circuit from the left indicators on one connector and the circuit from the right indicators on the other. When power is being drawn by the stock indicators, the current remaining when it reaches the indicator light is so little that at the indicator light it is theoretically possible for one of the two positive wires running to it to be used as an earth and not allow a sufficient current for the side not switched on.
So, I cut open 2x USB power plugs and took out the diodes from there. Soldered onto each of the positive circuit cables going to the light. Joined them after the diodeds and ran into one side of the indicator light, the other side of the light gets spliced into a real earth and the problem is solved at the root. Because I've upgraded my RR fixing the problem at the root is a better option than adding resistors to the LEDs.
Thanks all.
Sounds like you've done it right. But why butcher USB plugs when you could have bought new diodes from an electronics shop? The cost is very little.
You are lucky if you still have a physical small electronics shop nearby. With Radio Shack and Fry's electronics now gone in the US there is nowhere to easily find such things in person.
That's hard to believe. I live in Africa and there are five electronics shops within 20km from me. No, make that six if you include the one that specializes in importing components from Mouser and Digikey. Not bad for a third world country, hey?
@thatshitcray
I wasn't criticizing you for using what you had on hand. It just seemed unconventional to me that you used diodes from USB plugs (whatever that is). I didn't even know there are diodes in USB thingies. I would have jumped on my bike to get diodes from the electronics shop 8km away.
It was very unconventional and inconvenient. But easier and cost less in money, considering transport, to get to one in this case, or time to put the bike back in running order and wait till morning. I'm pretty sure diodes are a pretty basic part and any different ratings between them wouldn't be drastic, especially for this use.
Wall chargers that convert AC current to DC have diodes. Actually used one USB plug and one old electric razor charger.