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Title: Damn safety test
Post by: GRU on March 11, 2004, 07:53:20 AM
:x  :x  :x  :x

let's see, here in ontario we have to take our vehicles for a safety test...it has to pass or you can't drive/ride your vehicle...

i took my bike to a local shop and let's see....he sais i need a new handlebar (why do i need a new handlebar if it isn't bent or broken)

front brake caliper needs to be rebuild because it's sticking (that's weird because it wasn't sticking when i was riding)

fork seals (that, i belive)

and last but not least........new tiressssssss.....they have 4/32 on the highest point and 3/32 on the lowest....3 days ago i asked them how much tread i need on the tires to pass safety and they said "you need at least 2/32 on the lowest point"

i'm gonna go there and pickup my bike and take it to some other shop because the're trying to make maney from my white ass

anyway, they said it'll all cost somewhere north of $600


how hard is it to replace fork seals?
Title: Damn safety test
Post by: Frost on March 11, 2004, 08:12:27 AM
i know that you are mech. inclined...so why not just bring it to a car mechanic and get them to certify for you?....
then afterwards...you can fix it yourself :dunno:
Title: Damn safety test
Post by: GRU on March 11, 2004, 08:24:48 AM
are you sure a car mechanic can do a safety on a bike????

if so, i can take it to a good friend of mine who i used to work for
Title: fork seals
Post by: richard on March 11, 2004, 09:10:30 AM
Fork seals aren't too bad, but they will take some time to start with.  Also, to put the oil seals back on I recommend you find a 1 1/2 inch PVC pipe about 1 1/2 feet long to slip down over the fork and rest on the seal, where you can use a hammer to jar it down in place.

A good repair manual will be real helpful for this one, as it's a little bit involved (manual I was using ranked it 4 wrenches, out of 5 I think)

see This Thread (http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7404) for some discussion on it, and a link to another thread with more. =]

Good luck![/url]
Title: Damn safety test
Post by: GRU on March 11, 2004, 09:15:01 AM
thanks richard

i got lucky this time...the shop people were bitches but i went to my old boss's shop and asked if he can do the safety...not only that, he said i don't even have to bring my bike to the shop  :)

i should of done this in the first place but you learn on your mistakes..
Title: Damn safety test
Post by: Turkina on March 11, 2004, 09:34:04 AM
Yeah, talking to another shop was a good idea... even if it wasn't your boss' shop.  That first shop  :x  how dishonest can they be?  A list like that... honestly you'd probably only get hit for fork seals, and they'd probably pass you anyways.  It's pretty sad that many shops will find any reason to get money from you.  Being educated about your bike does help a lot... then you can ask some involved questions and show they can't pull the wool over your eyes.

Here in NY we have the safety inspection as well.  A lot of people neglect to have it done... I didn't get it done last year since I knew I wasn't going to be able to ride too much, and my bike needed a bunch of work for me to be satisfied to bring it in without them picking on every little thing.  I ended up doing that work myself :)  One of my friends took his CBR in for inspection, they ended up changing the throttle and cable tensions from where he set them purposely, took the bike for a joyride, then charged him for it :(  I plan on bringing my bike in for inspection this time around, as long as I can wait while it's getting done.  I'm not going to the nearest shop, since they're a bunch of unprofessional moneygrubbers attached to a car dealership.  Guy behind the counter one time didn't even know what a GS was, and they sold Suzukis!
Title: Damn safety test
Post by: Frost on March 11, 2004, 09:42:23 AM
when i was a newbie once...i was thinking of takin my bike in for a all around service...they wanted $260 from me...so i asked what were they gonna do...they listed a bunch of BS...such as checking headlights, checking horn, checking breaks, lubing chain...stuff like that?

what idiot can't check the horn or headlights???? :lol:

and they won't even include an oil change!!!!!!

haha...some shops are just ripoffs :x
Title: Re: Damn safety test
Post by: The Buddha on March 11, 2004, 09:43:22 AM
Quote from: GRU:x  :x  :x  :x

let's see, here in ontario we have to take our vehicles for a safety test...it has to pass or you can't drive/ride your vehicle...

i took my bike to a local shop and let's see....he sais i need a new handlebar (why do i need a new handlebar if it isn't bent or broken)


Yes You need new handlebars... Hey I happen to make them... you buy these and inspection is guaranteed...
OK BTW more seriously... There is a bunch of canadians wanting them... are they all going to get screwed at inspection with my handlebars??? Oh well ... you can beat the crap out of the guy with my handlebar a bit more easier...
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: Damn safety test
Post by: GRU on March 11, 2004, 09:58:01 AM
Quote from: seshadri_srinathYes You need new handlebars... Hey I happen to make them... you buy these and inspection is guaranteed...
OK BTW more seriously... There is a bunch of canadians wanting them... are they all going to get screwed at inspection with my handlebars??? Oh well ... you can beat the crap out of the guy with my handlebar a bit more easier...
Cool.
Srinath.

heheheh lol

yeah, if i get your handlebar and they fail me for the test, i'll just say "hey, i got the handlebar from The All Knowing Guru of Everything GS" and then they will have to pass my bike  :roll:

anyway, i'm thinking of geting your bars but not for now...i thought i'd save a lot of money if i got a older bike...my budget was 2000 CND...now i've spent more and still didn't finish my bike....well, i did finish it but i did a whole lot of other crap that the bike doesn't need....i just did it to make it better..
Title: Damn safety test
Post by: alerbaugh on March 11, 2004, 10:03:01 AM
what does an average 4,000 mile service cost?
Title: Damn safety test
Post by: GRU on March 11, 2004, 10:07:06 AM
Quote from: TurkinaYeah, talking to another shop was a good idea... even if it wasn't your boss' shop.  That first shop  :x  how dishonest can they be?  A list like that... honestly you'd probably only get hit for fork seals, and they'd probably pass you anyways.  It's pretty sad that many shops will find any reason to get money from you.  Being educated about your bike does help a lot... then you can ask some involved questions and show they can't pull the wool over your eyes.

Here in NY we have the safety inspection as well.  A lot of people neglect to have it done... I didn't get it done last year since I knew I wasn't going to be able to ride too much, and my bike needed a bunch of work for me to be satisfied to bring it in without them picking on every little thing.  I ended up doing that work myself :)  One of my friends took his CBR in for inspection, they ended up changing the throttle and cable tensions from where he set them purposely, took the bike for a joyride, then charged him for it :(  I plan on bringing my bike in for inspection this time around, as long as I can wait while it's getting done.  I'm not going to the nearest shop, since they're a bunch of unprofessional moneygrubbers attached to a car dealership.  Guy behind the counter one time didn't even know what a GS was, and they sold Suzukis!


when i got to the shop where they failed my bike, i asked them what needed to be done for the bike to pass....they gave me a list of 4 things...tires, handlebar, front caliper and fork seals...

there was a brand new gsxr 600 beside the desk and i asked them "take a look at that tire and the tire on my bike, the new tire has just a little more tread then my tires" and the guy started saying how my tires arn't safe and it's not the tread that's the problem...i just paid for my safety test and said "thank you and i know where i won't be shoping at anymore"

damn i hate them...i can't imagine how the screw people who don't know anything about their vehicle...


Here is how midas screws people
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Title: Damn safety test
Post by: Frost on March 11, 2004, 10:10:51 AM
Quote from: alerbaughwhat does an average 4,000 mile service cost?

i'm in the same position too...
but i just BOUGHT a clymer manual and i am planning on doing it myself...

i probably wont' get it right the first time...but hopefully a few buddies can help me with it...it'll save you a lot in the long run
Title: What...
Post by: The Buddha on March 11, 2004, 10:15:29 AM
4000 mile service... probably valves, oil & filter and what else... lube cables, change spark plugs, put air in the tires...
Should take even the newest of newbies an hour or 2 and not have any trouble. Easy.. and check back here if anythign gets too confusing.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Damn safety test
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on March 11, 2004, 10:33:22 PM
rotflmao :mrgreen:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :mrgreen:  :nana:
QuoteHere is how midas screws people
YOU HAVE TO HEAR THIS
http://archangel.clubchat.com/blonde.html
Title: Damn safety test
Post by: 500rider on March 12, 2004, 07:26:42 PM
For someone who can weld on his own exhaust can,  changing the fork seals should be easy.  The hard part might be getting the front end high enough to get the forks out.  My buddy had an engine hoist we used to lift the front end.  Actually changing the seals was easy.  The clymer manual describes it pretty well.  Don't ask me how to do it because it was about 3 years ago and I can't even remember what I had for lunch yesterday.   8)

Rob
Title: Damn safety test
Post by: GRU on March 12, 2004, 08:15:15 PM
thanks but i'm done with the safety test...powercycle was the first place i took it to and they failed my bike...then i argued with them and then took it to another bike shop and i passed...i got my insurance today and i'll be riding on monday  :)
Title: Damn safety test
Post by: richard on March 13, 2004, 12:52:31 AM
Quote from: GRUthanks but i'm done with the safety test...powercycle was the first place i took it to and they failed my bike...then i argued with them and then took it to another bike shop and i passed...i got my insurance today and i'll be riding on monday  :)

Sweet!  Glad to hear you're back on the road, particularly as things are probably warming up again.

I started riding (first motorcycle) in November, and I've gone about 3500 miles (give or take) since then, so you can imagine my utter bliss the other day when I took a ride to get lunch in the middle of the first 60 degree day of the year   :thumb:   I almost didn't go back to work.

Having just replaced leaky fork seals, though, I would like to caution you...  they get lower than you think, faster than you think.  Don't wait too long before you replace them.  you can get new ones for $10 or so (search threads for specific part #, I don't remember), and it's not too hard to install, but it'll really improve your ride to have all the fork oil in there.

I was blown away!