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SV650 Shock swap
« on: June 05, 2018, 05:25:14 AM »
SV650 Real Shock Swap.  Ive seen the wiki and it seems it doesn't look hard to do but was wondering if anyone has done it and how comfortable it is? They are really inexpensive on ebay and I like the ass end lift that it will potential have.  Says to re-drill holes, but is that only if I want it the same height as the stock gs500 shock.  Can I just swap without any modding?

Also is there a certain year.  I see a lot early 2000s but looking at a 2008.  Should be the same right?
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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2018, 05:42:33 AM »
I did the SV650 swap, and it was only marginally better than stock.  Plus you'll have to lengthen your kickstand or else the taller bike will fall over.

I very much recommend the R6 shock, which has compression and rebound adjustment.  Much better ride, definitely one of the best upgrades on my bike.  And it's only a few bucks more.
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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2018, 06:34:57 AM »
Thanks for that.  I was really looking at the R6 shock but I like the height of the 650.. Does the r6 have some lift to it?

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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2018, 06:44:27 AM »
I did the SV650 swap, and it was only marginally better than stock.  Plus you'll have to lengthen your kickstand or else the taller bike will fall over.

I very much recommend the R6 shock, which has compression and rebound adjustment.  Much better ride, definitely one of the best upgrades on my bike.  And it's only a few bucks more.

Did you have to cut or redrill anything with the 650?

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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2018, 07:45:47 AM »
The R6 shock didn't add any lift to my bike at all. I added shorter dogbones to give a 1" lift. I didn't hafta grind anything off the swingarm to install the shock, but I did have to grind when installing the dogbones.

I bought the SV650 shock last Fall, wanting to try it out and then give a comparison review of sorts... then life got in the way and I never got to do it. It's on my to-do list though!!

When I was curious about the SV shock, I did searches on here and it turned up a TON of informational threads about it. I saved them to a notepad file... here is my list of them:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=57309.0

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=44219.0

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=14393.0

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=7642.0

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=9828.0

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=43309.0
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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2018, 04:55:25 AM »
The R6 shock didn't add any lift to my bike at all. I added shorter dogbones to give a 1" lift. I didn't hafta grind anything off the swingarm to install the shock, but I did have to grind when installing the dogbones.

I bought the SV650 shock last Fall, wanting to try it out and then give a comparison review of sorts... then life got in the way and I never got to do it. It's on my to-do list though!!

When I was curious about the SV shock, I did searches on here and it turned up a TON of informational threads about it. I saved them to a notepad file... here is my list of them:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=57309.0

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=44219.0

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=14393.0

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=7642.0

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=9828.0

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=43309.0


Wow!! Thank you Showbiz, this is exactly what I need.  I really appreciate that, get some pics of my bike soon

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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2018, 06:18:59 AM »
You're very welcome, I'm glad I could help!!
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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2018, 05:57:11 AM »
I did the SV650 swap, and it was only marginally better than stock.  Plus you'll have to lengthen your kickstand or else the taller bike will fall over.

I very much recommend the R6 shock, which has compression and rebound adjustment.  Much better ride, definitely one of the best upgrades on my bike.  And it's only a few bucks more.

Thanks for the info too.  I've been heavily looking into the R6and fell this is the best choice.  Also the tip about the kickstand.. :thumb:

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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2018, 12:00:58 AM »
I fitted what I thought was an SV650 shock and even after I drilled a hole 20mm above the stock hole it still sits 80mm higher than with the GS shock. After reading stuff on here, I'm beginning to wonder if the shock I bought was actually an SV650 or not.

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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2018, 01:29:15 AM »
I fitted what I thought was an SV650 shock and even after I drilled a hole 20mm above the stock hole it still sits 80mm higher than with the GS shock. After reading stuff on here, I'm beginning to wonder if the shock I bought was actually an SV650 or not.

Not all SV shocks are the same. The first gen (99-02) has a shock that 338mm long with about a 510lb/in spring, the second gen (03-?10) is 330mm long with a 430lb/in spring. I don't know what the Gladius and recent SVs have.

How long is a stock GS500 shock, and is there a variance between years?

(Shock lengths are measured eye-center to eye-center)

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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2018, 07:49:26 AM »


How long is a stock GS500 shock?

(Shock lengths are measured eye-center to eye-center)

295 mm

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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2018, 12:09:25 AM »
May want to also consider older GSXR shocks.  They have reservoir tanks and rebound and dampening adjustments.  You can use the exact same bolt for the clevis mount.  You don't need to redrill anything.  You likely will need to grind a bit of material off the swingarm to prevent interference between the spring and the swingarm.

It will sit a good deal higher and be a much stiffer ride.  I can still use my kickstand, but it does lean further over than it used to.  I tend to always use my centerstand anyway.
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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2018, 01:08:00 AM »


How long is a stock GS500 shock?

(Shock lengths are measured eye-center to eye-center)

295 mm

Damn, that's a huge difference to either SV shock. On the SVs, for racing we use shocks* that are 10-15mm longer than stock, and that totally transforms the bike's handling. 30-40mm longer would be completely unworkable.
How long are the R6 shocks?

*Penske or Ohlins.

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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2018, 02:51:33 AM »

How long are the R6 shocks?

*Penske or Ohlins.

295 mm

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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2018, 02:10:03 PM »

How long are the R6 shocks?

*Penske or Ohlins.

295 mm

Is that for all years? I know Suzuki has changed GSXR lengths and spring rates a lot, typically every couple of years.
It's a shame that they aren't just a touch longer, most of the time the "best" length is 5-10mm longer than stock.

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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2018, 03:13:12 PM »
I just did some shock swapping yesterday and finally laid out the SV650 (the style in the wiki), next to the stock GS500, next to the R6 (I believe mine is a 2010).

Eye-center to eye-center, I got 337mm for the SV650, 290mm for the GS500, and 292mm for the R6.

Total overall length for them I got 14.5" for the SV650, 12.5" for the GS500, and 12.75" for the R6.

I don't have an R6 shock with the slightly different style of top bits (the other one pictured in the wiki) to measure, unfortunately. Nor do I have the style with the different lower mount that won't work on the GS.

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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2018, 05:30:53 PM »
Excellent info, thanks!

The SV shock you have is a first gen, waaaayy too long for the GS500.

Just for grins I looked up the R6 shock spring rates on the Race-Tech site:
99-02  9.3kg/mm
03-04  9.85kg/mm
05      10.8kg/mm
06-16  9.8kg/mm

I don't know what years correspond to what mount style.

Unfortunately, they don't have the GS500 shock spring rated. If anyone is willing to mail me an old one that they don't want anymore I'll be happy to rate the spring. 
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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2018, 07:34:19 PM »
I trimmed that shock in the pic yesterday to fit and updated the wiki with more information :) It was a fun little project!

AFAIK, the style of R6 shocks that drop right into the GS are the '06-'16 ones. The one in the pic (that I had on my bike prior to the SV) is a 2010.

This turned into a really fun thread!
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Re: SV650 Shock swap
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2018, 06:02:14 AM »
Holy smokes this is excellent info from everyone.  Showbiz, incredible work on the pictures and excellent update on the wiki.  Prefect visual perspective, thanks!!