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preferred oil?

Started by alexXx, September 09, 2004, 07:58:00 AM

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alexXx

so...i'm coming up on my first (while under my ownership) oil change...was wonder what our little GS likes to eat...any preferred brands / weights?  thanks all...


- alex
'03 SV650S

alexXx

also, this would be my first real tinkering of a motorcycle...any tips / tricks / stupid shaZam! to avoid doing?   :mrgreen:  thanks all...


- alex
'03 SV650S

Kerry

Quote from: alexXxany preferred brands / weights?
For the "preferred" weight, see the oil filler cap:


The "preferred brand" question is a can of worms.  I used a full-synthetic for most of my 32K miles, but I recently saw the "error of my ways" and went with a mid-cost oil in the "preferred" weight:


But please understand that just about any 10W40 oil will work fine in the GS500.  It comes down to a largely emotional decision; kind of like choosing the fabric and pattern for your security blanket.
Yellow 1999 GS500E
Kerry's Suzuki GS500 Page

Kerry

Quote from: alexXxany tips / tricks / stupid shaZam! to avoid doing?
* Unscrewing the filler cap may help the old oil drain out a little better.

* Make sure the new O-ring is properly positioned in the oil filter cover, and doesn't move out of place as you reinstall the cover (so it doesn't get pinched between the cover and the engine).

* Don't forget to put the spring back in between the oil filter and the cover.

* Replace the drain bolt (and tighten it) BEFORE you add the new oil.  :mrgreen:

* Pour in a little less than 3 quarts, run the bike for a minute or so, check the oil level and top off at that point.
Yellow 1999 GS500E
Kerry's Suzuki GS500 Page

Alias

Quote from: Kerry
Quote from: alexXxany tips / tricks / stupid shaZam! to avoid doing?
* Unscrewing the filler cap may help the old oil drain out a little better.

* Make sure the new O-ring is properly positioned in the oil filter cover, and doesn't move out of place as you reinstall the cover (so it doesn't get pinched between the cover and the engine).

* Don't forget to put the spring back in between the oil filter and the cover.

* Replace the drain bolt (and tighten it) BEFORE you add the new oil.  :mrgreen:

* Pour in a little less than 3 quarts, run the bike for a minute or so, check the oil level and top off at that point.

You are running regular car motor oil with friction aditives in your bike?!? Hows the clutch? I tryed car oil, my clutch didn't like that at all.

The Buddha

Car oil exclusively for 45K and no clutch related issues... BTW Kerry... you are the only guy that will post a pic of a bottle of oil on the shelf at the store... please tell me you didn't have that picture taken for fun so you know what oil you put...
BTW I use 10W40 by accel 74 cents a quart at walmart. Its SF rated... meaning its got loads of additives...
Cool.
Srinath.
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MacDuff

My preference Mobile One 15w-50.  

Tips:

Clean the filter area well before removing the cover.  There is a lot of dirt in that area.  

Filter cover bolts do not require much torque.  I also use anti-seize on the filter cap bolts.  Just because.

MacDuff
It is easier to ask forgiveness than permission.

Kerry

Quote from: seshadri_srinathBTW Kerry... you are the only guy that will post a pic of a bottle of oil on the shelf at the store... please tell me you didn't have that picture taken for fun so you know what oil you put...
No, I took that pic along with several others so I could post a sampling of the 10W40 oils (and prices) out there.  You were aware that my camera has a "For GStwin use ONLY" sticker on it, right?  :roll:  (Not really.)


Quote from: seshadri_srinathI use 10W40 by accel 74 cents a quart at walmart. Its SF rated... meaning its got loads of additives...
So you're using THIS stuff, eh?   :mrgreen:   I just might give it a try one of these days....

Yellow 1999 GS500E
Kerry's Suzuki GS500 Page

octane

Castrol SAE30. Clutch LOVES it. Seriously. After I switched to amsoil synthetic and my clutch started slipping the 30 weight cleared it back up. Been using it since.

alexXx

damn, kerry...is there anything you DONT have a picture for?

:mrgreen:


- alex
'03 SV650S

Kerry

Quote from: alexXxis there anything you DONT have a picture for?
I've "only" got 231 images in my MiscFotos directory.  There must be at least a few more that I need to take....  :roll:
Yellow 1999 GS500E
Kerry's Suzuki GS500 Page

alexXx

so i'm getting the sense from a couple of your posts that synthetic oil ISN'T the way to go?  don't you have to do oil changes every 1000 miles with organic oil and 2000 with synthetic?  i tink i read that somewhere...

whats with this clutch slipping thing that varies with the oil?!? i didnt know that could be affected by choice of oil...

also another question...fill in the X...you should take your GS to get serviced every X,000 miles...


- alex
'03 SV650S

Alias

Quote from: alexXxso i'm getting the sense from a couple of your posts that synthetic oil ISN'T the way to go?  don't you have to do oil changes every 1000 miles with organic oil and 2000 with synthetic?  i tink i read that somewhere...

whats with this clutch slipping thing that varies with the oil?!? i didnt know that could be affected by choice of oil...

also another question...fill in the X...you should take your GS to get serviced every X,000 miles...


- alex

Multiply those numbers by 3 :p

The Buddha

Well In my case there is no need, typicaly every 100miles or so it uses up the entire 3 quarts... so its like a oil change... I add a third evey 100miles or so... hence cheapo oil, cant afford better...   :x
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werase643

you can affor better you are just a cheap bastard....
....i'll go dig up the oil link ...again

http://www.yft.org/tex_vfr/tech/oil.htm
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

The Buddha

The Accel crap is better... you should see it... its grey right out the bottle... loaded with additives and makes for an ashy residue when it burns... and that will kill sensors in new cars... hence it says do not use in cars made after 1990. Its the good stuff...
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Frost

i use Rotella T with no problems at all...

i'm gonna switch to castrol for my next oil change though...canadian winter is around the corner... :roll:
wileyco, K&N pod, rejet 22.5/65/147.5, F16 flyscreen, progressive springs, 15t front sprocket...more to come: katana shock

alexXx

werase643, awesome link thanks...

srinath, what the hell does your bike do to all that oil?!?!?  :o


- alex
'03 SV650S

werase643

it's weird...it don't smoke  and it don't piss on his leg....but it uses the stuff
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

Kerry

Quote from: alexXxso i'm getting the sense from a couple of your posts that synthetic oil ISN'T the way to go?
Strictly from a monetary viewpoint.  I have NO complaints after having used Mobil1 15W50 for all those miles - except for the high (and ever-increasing!) cost of the stuff.


Quote from: alexXxdon't you have to do oil changes every 1000 miles with organic oil and 2000 with synthetic?  i tink i read that somewhere...
Until now I have always run synthetic and I have still changed the oil around 3,000 miles.  I probably could have gotten away with going 4 or 5, but I chose not to.


Quote from: alexXxwhats with this clutch slipping thing that varies with the oil?!? i didnt know that could be affected by choice of oil...
I've heard / read about it, but I couldn't tell you what it's like.  If my clutch has been slipping, it's news to me.  But since I've basically been a one-brand man I couldn't really compare, except to say that the last couple hundred miles on my new Castrol Syntec 10W40 have felt  about the same as ever....


Quote from: alexXxalso another question...fill in the X...you should take your GS to get serviced every X,000 miles...
Ah, a trick question!

MY answer?  Service your simple-to-work-on-two-valves-per-cylinder-air-cooled-bike yourself according to the Maintenance Schedule.  A repair manual and a set of tools are a LOT cheaper than shop labor, and you will learn a ton.

Sure - if something comes up that you can't handle, go ahead and "shop" it.  But the only time I have done that (and I started out on my GS as a total "noob") was for reconstruction after I ... dare I mention it? ... pasted that cow.
Yellow 1999 GS500E
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