DIY slip on exhaust Kit...

[The Buddha]

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/seshadrisrinath/album?.dir=878b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

Old link, new pics... one with the flange on the can... so you can see the flow area... and not much restriction in spite of the offset, and of course the titanium can and carbon fiber can side by side. Weight... OK the damn cans have big variations in weight... and worse... the variations are sorta designed in... like the heavy cans I have even though they look identical to the lighter ones, the hangers etc are made much more heavy duty like they designed it that way ... and BTW I have reversed course on the weight thing... that 1 set I have is almost 70% the stock can's weight... the rest of the cans are under 30%... carbon cans seem to have a slightly lower weight than the titanium, but both are light. And the carbon fiber is not smooth finish.. you can feel texture in it. Whatever that is called... sorta like the denim used in jeans. Looks nice, and has that slightly different from each angle look I thought. BTW I am keeping the heavy cans, if not for my bike, atleast for slicing open to see what is making it heavy.
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Srinath.

[Gofer]

Don't think the link's working. How much(money) are you talking about total, Srinath?

[The Buddha]

Might have had many people click the link and there is a daily limit ... anyway try it in a bit or somehting.
The total is $125 - It includes a slipper flange that slides on to a 89-00 header pipe, a carbon fiber or titanium can and a set of bolts and gaskets and a hanger and the cushion gasket ... All you do is... cut the stock can off right as it begins to flare, then slip the flange on, mark the inner pipe (under the flare the header pipe continues) and cut it there. Then bolt the can to the flange with the gaket in the middle and slip it on and clamp it to foot peg carrier with the clamp that is included.
You could save a $25 or so by buying the can from a Dennis Kirk ebay buy it now auction ($50 and shipping - 15 ) and the flange is $30. Same bolt on method... and Oh yea... I have a serious piece of technology for the cushion on the clamp which you dont get....  :mrgreen:  Inner tube strip  :mrgreen:  OK fine for $5 I'll include it... Also the Ebay ones are Stainless, mine are carbon fiber or titanium.
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Srinath.

[Gofer]

Sounds interesting. i'll have to get the bike first(looking at Charleym3's) and see what shape the can's in. It's a '90 and the can's stock, so i'm not sure if its condition is going to be terrific.

Isn't carbon fiber quieter than the titanium(or the stainless steel)?? Don't want the neighbors complaining about the noise.

[The Buddha]

Carbon fiber is nice and burbly... titanium, ok not tried it yet, stainless is a bit metallic, aluminum is worse, much more tinny ...
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Srinath.

[Frost]

so is it 125 for the whole exhaust kit?

[Gofer]

$125 for the whole kit--at least that's how i understood it.

[gs500rider]

How do I order?  For $125, does that include shipping?  Anyway, let me know.  I'm interested on getting the carbon fiber one.  Thanks.

GS500Rider

[The Buddha]

$125 is for the can, flange and all the bolts (all 3 of them...  :lol: ) and the gaskets, hangers, and the rubber cushion for the hanger. You only need a dremel or other type of saw... like a sawzallor jig saw, and does not include shipping. OK I also will for the first order... swap pipes ... you ship yours to me and I'll send mine along with the header. I need it to make a pictorial for instructions. Mine was recently painted but it has a flange that has been welded on because the guy that I swapped with over the weekend was in a wreck and his can was smashed... so he started to cut it... in the wrong place ... anyway it will work fine, just is a welded fit.
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Srinath.

[se7enty7]

I visited srinath over the weekend and can attest that these cans/flanges really are top notch.  I picked up a carbon fiber and adapter plate for myself but haven't installed it yet..... but just visually the quality is amazing.

[The Buddha]

Hey thanks... The cans are great but I didn't make them... they were just clearanced by Anysunday racing as blemished... Ok I have been searching for the blemishes ever since ... found none... except those inflicted by UPS  :x  on the way here... The flanges I thought were thick and heavy duty, cos they were end caps off somehting or other pipe my welder finds somewhere... A little industrial looking but you barely see it... But yes quality is great, which is why I managed to sell 2 sets to people after meeting them at the bike shop... they look really good, and in person its hard to miss that fact. Pics dont really do it justice.
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Srinath.

[Gofer]

Jeez, they seem to be selling like hotcakes! Perhaps i could call dibs on a carbon fiber one?  

[The Buddha]

Instructions follow... watch this space, everyone that bought one...
Gofer... the exhausts are selling fine, however the larger point is... the things on ebay are going fast... they are the stainless ones but at $65 shipped to your door they are un beatable, my flanges are an anytime thing as long as I can get to my fabrication dude... hence... I would urge every one that might ever buy a slipon... to get one either from ebay or me... cos the entire combo is right about $100 total including shipping and it makes for a great looking fit with a nicely built can even if you get SS or $125 for titanium or carbon.
My stock is down to 2 titanium and 2 carbon... and heck I might keep 1 of each... for the 2 bikes instead of just 1. Anyway you not buy a bike yet gofer...
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Srinath.

[Gofer]

Trying to remedy that last bit, Srinath.  

[The Buddha]

OK anyone wants to swap a ready bolt one for the stocker... and cash etc... same deal as usual for 125 and shipping, I ship you mine and yousend yours back... while you spend a bit more sending yours ... no nothing needs cut ... just bolt and run and heck much less down time ... I need it to make a pictorial ... whihc BTW is going to be useless in a few more days probably... cos I'll be all out... but still buy off ebay dennis crook scratch and dent and the flanges come in handy.
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Srinath.

[The Buddha]

Ok I rode the thing today with a Titanium can... and believe it or not... it is rather quiet... only had it to 7K and it quiet for rider... even down low its pretty quiet if standing next to it... and it cannot sound that much like a monster... it ought to be illegal for imitating a monster... BTW I think I put on an italian pipe so its sounding like an italian bike...  :lol: ... sweet, carbon was a touch quieter I think... but barely noticeable.
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Srinath.

[The Buddha]

OK refer to the last 2 pics in that yahoo link...

Step 1 : Fit the flange on the can... The narrow side on the flange should face away from the label... BTW the label can be pried off and re stuck, some labels came loose in shipping  :x ... securing the label with super glue or emblem tape or 2 part emblem glue or other means might be prudent. Mark on the flange where the inner side of the can is visible. Take it off and then mark the flange on the side that was contacting the can.

Step 2 : No picture ... but ~ 1/8 inch off the weld where it flares cut the flared part... Be careful not to nick up the header pipe... which continues inside the flarefor a good 2 inches... that should stay intact Starts like a thin scratch and gardually get it deeper... The close you are to the weld obviously the close to the outside pipe the head pipe is. So 1/8 will give you just enough room... but cut it as close as you can ... means less grinding.

Step 3 : Put the bike on center stand... and check the last picture for what you are looking for. The Rubber knocker on the exhaust should hit the right side of little square thing on the center stand... or atleast the center on the little square thing... Bikes that have been dumped on the right have exhausts that have bent in... :x  dont ask how I know... So if the pipe is bent in... now that the exhaust can is gone... stick a good length pipe inside the header, and hold the bike with one hand and push the pipe outward to where it should be. Also check by fitting the flange narrow side to the swingarm to make sure there is enough clearance... flange + 1/2 inch is ideal, more is good, down to 1/4 inch is OK.

Step 4 : Then where the marks are on the flange mark the header pipe, and mark down the flat face of the flange... BTW the flat face of flange makes contact with the can, the pipe part of flange faces forward. The header pipe should be cut where the marks are... You are going to cut a pipe into a 1/2 pipe or more like a 3/4 pipe... You know what a 1/2 pipe is right... its like a U, you slice a pipe length wise and you have a 1/2 pipe. OK you'll have a 3/4 pipe on the headers... at this point... but the parts that are covered by the flange will be the whole pipe... and check for the exhaust slipping in on it

Step 5 : Fit the gasket betwen the flange and pipe and bolt it together and slide the whole thing on the headers. Use the rubber inner tube provided as a clamp cushion and clamp it on... Typically I have had the best fit when fitting one lip of the clamp on the front of the footpeg carrier and one lip on the back bacause the exhaust gasket is a bit thick to get a full clamp. BTW Old pair of jeans will work just as well if you dont like that rubber thingy. Titanium cans...well titanium is harder than the stainless that the clamp is made out of... so no need for rubber cushion... just bolt in on ...

OK so how is that ... simple... complicated ... I wish I had pics for the 3/4 pipe etc... Just patience and a dremel tool... It has to be a tight fit, clean up the inner head pipe off any carbon build up and maybe lube it a bit. if its not tight it will leak... I like the 3/4 pipe mainly because I have 1/2 inch overlap on the pipes and vibrations or good bumps might get the head pipe out of the muffler... so the extra length slipped inside will be nice.

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Srinath.

[bigorange]

I have installed one of the carbon fiber pipes. I went this route because I wanted the option of switching back and forth with a stock can that has a slipper pipe welded in it. I didn't want one welded on.

Took my complete exhaust off. Went back from weld about 1/8 inch, cut off the stocker can with dremel. Cleaned up were I cut off the stocker can from the header even with the weld just for looks. Put my exhaust back on. Slid the flange up to the weld,made a mark around the header even with the back of the flange. Cut a  "C" notch out toward the swing arm side. Now looking at the header from the back it looks like a backward "C". With pics this will be crystal clear. Then I put the flange on the can and tweaked it in toward the tire so the centerline of the rear of the can is around 7-8 inches from the edge of stock size tire. Clamped it on.Done.

Flange is going to work on any can that bolts up with one.

Any questions I had were answered very quickly.  

I just got back from a 2 hour ride. Can has a good low thump to it at idle.


Pipe is not as loud as my helmet at cruising speed. I have an HJC AC-11.

Overall improvement from stock can. The bike actually pulls you from the handlebars now when you gap it. It has a stronger midrange for sure. Spools up a lot better. I was impressed with the difference pulling from 4k to 8k rpms. You can actually feel it when you roll on the throttle.

I don't think I'll get many miles from this tank of gas.lol

I don't have a digital camera, but I am working on getting pics to the man.

[The Buddha]

OK After I send off the one to canada I will have 2 left ... 1 Ti and 1 carbon. I am keeping 1 Ti for myself...  :mrgreen: ... The cans let the bike spin up very very quick, and they sound cool, very fat sounding and quite booming like a monster...  :mrgreen:  Proving once again that you dont need a italian bike... just need an italian pipe ...  :lol:
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Srinath.

[Dom]

srinath,
Can I get dibs on the carbon?  I'll Pal Pal you as soon as you give me the high sign.  dpm@beer.com