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Got the WileyCo pipe installed on the GS

Started by 70 Cam Guy, December 13, 2004, 06:02:23 PM

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Dom

Yeah, I think I'll just hack it and tack it... or drill some new holes and tack in some dummy bolt heads where the existing ones are now...proly the latter...the new holes would split the difference between the old holes perfectly, making it look like there are 6 bolts holding it on.  :cheers:

The Buddha

In Tamil we have an expression ... lemme loosely translate it...
We should take your brain out and display it in a museum ...
Probably right next to mine - not the expression ... my addition.
Cool.
Srinath.
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70 Cam Guy

I don't really know too much about the history of my bike.  I bought it with a salvage title so any number of things could have happened to it before I got it.  I know the previous owner but they also bought it used so who knows what happened to the centerstand.  The stock exhaust wasn't smashed though  :dunno:
Andy

Dom

So I tried taking Srinath's advice, and cut another inch off...same problem, so I tried drilling new holes...my theory was wrong...over corrected...now it sticks out the other way...guess my first instinct was correct...hackin' and tackin' baby.. :cheers:

The Buddha

OK what exactly is the problem Dom ... You moved it forward and the snout is off to the left more ???  You try setting the flange ~1 ich off the swingarm and seeing where it lines up with ... See if you can send me/post a pic
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Srinath.
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Dom

All done now.  :thumb:  I got the pipe rotated to a position where wouldn't roll around and tightened down the strap, then drilled out the pop rivets, rotated it to where it looks good, and redrilled and riveted.   :cheers:

BTW, those cans are made of aluminum filled with fiber glass batting surrounding a cylinder of two different types of expanded metal and finished off with a CF skin.  I assume all of them are made the same way with just different skins...I don't know why one would sound different than another unless the SS or Ti skin was rattling around over the aluminum tube...possible I guess...

:cheers:

Dom

Srinath, my headers were just probably really bent and wouldn't work with the mid tube the way it was welded.  I know that my bike had been dropped pretty hard on the stock can by the looks of it, also my girlfriend accidentially dropped it too when I told her it was okay to sit on it...I guess I had to learn that one the hard way...I was all the way across the parking lot and too far to catch it when I saw it start to fall...at least it wasn't on the new can. :thumb:

The Buddha

OK good job I guess... yea that stock pipe is totally un predictable ... it can be an inch off at that mid pipe point ...
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The Buddha

Quote from: DomAll done now.  :thumb:  I got the pipe rotated to a position where wouldn't roll around and tightened down the strap, then drilled out the pop rivets, rotated it to where it looks good, and redrilled and riveted.   :cheers:

BTW, those cans are made of aluminum filled with fiber glass batting surrounding a cylinder of two different types of expanded metal and finished off with a CF skin.  I assume all of them are made the same way with just different skins...I don't know why one would sound different than another unless the SS or Ti skin was rattling around over the aluminum tube...possible I guess...

:cheers:

OK so is that good quality or not... They looked like well made but I didn't cut one open...
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Dom

I don't know if it's good quality but I assume they are all made this way; Yosh, Wileyco, V&H, probably all the same from a technical standpoint...  Every major exhaust manufacturer probably uses aluminum tube on the inside too because it is the lightest.  

If you have some 3/16"x1/2" (or 3/16"x3/8") pop rivets it might not be a bad idea for you to drill one open and see how they are made.. I think it was a good learning experience.  All I know is that exhaust manufacturers are making a pretty hefty profit because there is very little involved in the manufacturing these things.

All of these pipes probably just cost alot because they spend so much money on advertising.

70 Cam Guy

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OK so is that good quality or not... They looked like well made but I didn't cut one open...
Cool.
Srinath.

My SS pipe feels very solid.  I've read on other boards that C/F pipes are typically just skinned with C/F.  I'd bet that the SS and Ti don't have that extra Aluminum liner and only have the hefty gauge SS/Ti outer skin.  I thought about shortening my pipe because it looked big in pics of other bikes but I'm very happy with how much turned out.
Andy

Dom


70 Cam Guy

Quote from: Dom
All of these pipes probably just cost alot because they spend so much money on advertising.

There is a lot of money that goes into R&D on these exhausts for a bike that may only be around for a couple years before a redesign.

Even though it is bought in bulk, Ti and 304 Stainless are relatively expensive.  Then there's the welding.  I'm not entirely sure but I've heard a lot of these exhausts are hand TIG welded and not robot welded.  I think some of these companies are hydroforming headers now and I bet the tooling for that costs a pretty penny

Some of the newer exhausts from Akra, Arata, Moriwaki, and the crazy new header from Micron are works of art.  droooool :)
Andy

70 Cam Guy

Quote from: DomAll done.:thumb:

Sweet man, love how the carbon cans look :thumb:

To be completely honest, I wasn't sure what my can was going to be like when it arrived.  I'm seriously happy.  lol for 50 bucks I got a solid pipe, new hat, new Tshirt that I'd actually wear, stickers, a keychain, and a pin :mrgreen:
Andy

Dom

Thanks! :cheers: The wileyco cans are great, no matter which one you get, because I honestly believe that they are essentially the same, except for the skins.  The test for me was running around the office screaming into it at the top of my lungs and making only a whisper of a sound.  Ok, so I got some odd looks from the coworkers, but they aren't shocked by anything I do anymore... :mrgreen:

I trashed the shirt weeks ago...white shirts don't last very long in my wardrobe...I own a couple of pair of coveralls but I always forget to put them on before I start getting dirty...drats!

dolepineapple

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The Buddha

Quote from: 70 Cam Guy
Quote from: Dom
All of these pipes probably just cost alot because they spend so much money on advertising

There is a lot of money that goes into R&D on these exhausts for a bike that may only be around for a couple years before a redesign.


That must be why the GSXR, the CBR900/929/954 and the YZF 1000 all have identical cans ...  :lol:
Honestly advertising and race team support is what you paying for ... having said that buying it for $50 you didn't pay none of that ... so  :cheers:
I am making some out of fire extinguishers and some cheap ass baffle ... and I believe I'd probably make a loss at $50 .... yea buying material at retail is a good way to lose your shirt, your pants and part of your ass ...
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Dom

Quote from: seshadri_srinathI am making some out of fire extinguishers and some cheap ass baffle ...  

DUDE! That's AWESOME :thumb:

You have to keep them painted red with all of the stickers on them!

The Buddha

Quote from: Dom
Quote from: seshadri_srinathI am making some out of fire extinguishers and some cheap ass baffle ...  

DUDE! That's AWESOME :thumb:

You have to keep them painted red with all of the stickers on them!

Of course ... that's the whole idea ... it should be obvious its a fire extinguisher ...I am thinking of a no snout design just for that effect ...
Now wont it be funny if that paint on it got cooked in the heat of the exhaust ...
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chinox22x

Quote from: seshadri_srinath
Quote from: Dom
Quote from: seshadri_srinathI am making some out of fire extinguishers and some cheap ass baffle ...  

DUDE! That's AWESOME :thumb:

You have to keep them painted red with all of the stickers on them!

Of course ... that's the whole idea ... it should be obvious its a fire extinguisher ...I am thinking of a no snout design just for that effect ...
Now wont it be funny if that paint on it got cooked in the heat of the exhaust ...
Cool.
Srinath.

hehe...u gonna use a co2 can or a foam can?  :lol:
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