stainless steel braided brake lines

Michael · January 17, 2005, 01:05:21 AM

Quote from: seshadri_srinathOK great here we go again ...
Leaking fittings might cause it to fail, but you'll see the leak long before the thing becomes a factor ... a lever that comes back further and further will be giveaway sign as well. Line bursting open ... yea I haven't considered that ... BTW I have run almost 10 years and 35K miles on lines made by me ... and back then I didn't even have a decent set of wrenches... Swaged fittings ... AKA lines made by galfer are morelikely to fail and worse ... harder to fix ...
OK that gives me an idea ...
Brake Lines - if anyone wants these - I am going to cut them to length and have fittings included and you fit it together with the Instructions provided ... OK happy now. Anyone that has made brake lines would well know by now ... bolted together fittings are far superior to swaged fittings on the lines.
Cool.
Srinath.

Still be careful making such vital components for others. Your liability laws seem to be insanely on the side of the stupid, so my guess is that anything that can conceivably go wrong will be blamed on the product and the onus will be on you to prove it wasn't. Not saying don't do it. Just be canny. Good luck.

Adam R · January 17, 2005, 07:49:36 AM

Try these guys in So Cal:

http://www.gjaircrft.qpg.com/

They use Russel or Goodrigde or whatever they have thats comparable. If you send the stock hose as a model, they can copy it, most likely in the same day. I think I payed around $25 for the front hose with fittings in blue last year.

Adam

Adam R · January 17, 2005, 07:50:34 AM

The Buddha · January 17, 2005, 09:57:50 AM

Quote from: Blueknytthere is a shop near my work that makes braided lines, Nos,Brake, and Oil lines. thats where i got the quote from.

Do they make bolted or swaged lines.
Cool.
Srinath.

Church6360 · January 19, 2005, 07:15:57 PM

i might buy a kit from srinath, i'll even sign a waiver freeing him from any resposibility in the event that the lines fail and i eat a tree. srinath if you get enough potential buyers email me at church6360@yahoo.com. also you should make a "srinath's services" website to showcase all your gs500 products and services.

-matt

The Buddha · January 19, 2005, 07:39:21 PM

OK lemme start calling the nascar wannabe's ...
Website ... well see I want to phase out everyhting except 2-3 ... flanges are almost useless cos the dennis krook is almost sold out, the old bars have been replaced by true clipon's though I have 5-6 of those left over ... case guards, and maybe brake lines ... apart from jetting. Forget those one off's I am not planning those much anyway ... so bars, case guards for now and maybe brake lines.
Anyway Let me see what they want ... I wish I could buy 100 fet of the stuff ... we can get whatever we want ... long 30 dgeree banjo and short straight banjo ... Ok lemme check ...
Cool.
Srinath.

Blueknyt · January 19, 2005, 09:13:39 PM

im not sure i know the difference Srinath, got a pic of each (bolted, swage), and BTW, those needles arived yesterday, the wife handed them to me today. thanks

The Buddha · January 19, 2005, 10:41:05 PM

Bolted ones have the hex thing whatever its called on the bottom of the banjo ... its a collar maybe ... ferrule goes in the line under the braiding, the collar nut goes over ... before you fit the ferrule and then banjo part fits in the ferrule and you bolt the collar to the banjo crushing the ferrule into the line and mating it with the banjo... A swaged line has no ferrule and no hex collar nut ... its an outer thin wall and an inner wall for the inside of the line ... slide the line in and roll the outer wall with the swage so it clamps on the outside of the line ... So hex nut collar right below banjo = bolted, if its smooth its swaged.
Cool.
Srinath.

Blueknyt · January 20, 2005, 09:36:52 AM

ok, if the line screws to the Banjo fittings is bolt on, if its the crimped type its swaged. think they are swaged

The Buddha · January 20, 2005, 10:46:39 AM

On crimped lines sometimes they end up with micro cracks in the part they roll and crimp, agreed its rare but ... that makes for a weaker fitting, also if you were to drop the bike or under some circumstances were to break a fitting ... that will be a new line you'd have to buy, in a bolted fitting, its a $6 banjo ...
Cool.
Srinath.

genEricStL · April 01, 2007, 08:06:31 PM

So ... I know it's an older post , but are you making the lines Srinath ? I'd like a front brake line if so ... in blue if at all possible

If so , what would they run now (the original post is from '05 hehe) with shipping to 63010 ? (St Louis,Mo)
Thanks , Eric

Chuck · April 02, 2007, 01:21:27 PM

So, the Russell brake line kit for the GS is less than $30 from Parts Unlimited. I forget, what are we gaining by making them ourselves?

The Buddha · April 03, 2007, 08:43:10 AM

Holy ancient thread batman ...
Some crap happened in like another thread ... someone came up with a shop that would make it or something and I never did these.
I'd say buy it for $30 if available. My costs for these look like this ...
End fittings cost $9 each, line costs ~$3 a foot. We need 30 inches ... say $12 ... then cutting, and fitting ... minimal other people involved, need a shop and maybe a smoother saw blade ... prolly sitting around at my welders shop ... but say I have to buy one ... $15 for that. Guess what ... will cost more than the $30 ... heck might run closer to $40.
Honestly, I think anything that needs more labor, we benifit from centralising ... as in ... making a 100 will let me jig it, mass produce bits of it and put it together ... jigging makes fast work. I spent more time and wasted more on the first lot of 10 flanges than I did on the last 2 totalling ~100. The key, jigging and numbers.
Anyway, first I am going on vacation tommorow, then I come back and start on handle bars. Once we are swimming in those we'll try anything else.
Cool.
Srinath.

trumpetguy · April 03, 2007, 10:43:44 AM

Quote from: Chuck on April 02, 2007, 01:21:27 PM
So, the Russell brake line kit for the GS is less than $30 from Parts Unlimited. I forget, what are we gaining by making them ourselves?

I can't find the GS500 listed on the Parts Unlimited site (or Russell's online catalog). Am I missing something?

Chuck · April 03, 2007, 10:47:29 AM

The app guide at flatoutmotorcycles.com goes to this site:

http://www.psndealer.com/dealersite/images/ec0322/255589_chart_4225.jpg

It says 90-00, so I'll let you know if it doesn't fit on my '01. If they ever get around to shipping it.

trumpetguy · April 03, 2007, 01:15:43 PM

Quote from: Chuck on April 03, 2007, 10:47:29 AM
The app guide at flatoutmotorcycles.com goes to this site:

http://www.psndealer.com/dealersite/images/ec0322/255589_chart_4225.jpg

It says 90-00, so I'll let you know if it doesn't fit on my '01. If they ever get around to shipping it.

That's the part number on the GS500E Wiki as well, but since I don't see it on Russell's site, I'm thinking it's been discontinued.

Anybody know for sure?

coll0412 · April 03, 2007, 02:47:53 PM

Confirmed....They are discontinued

But I just got one of the few left in a warehouse

trumpetguy · April 03, 2007, 03:23:02 PM

Quote from: coll0412 on April 03, 2007, 02:47:53 PM
Confirmed....They are discontinued

But I just got one of the few left in a warehouse

Please PM me with which warehouse!

I want one of the other "last ones"!

groff22 · April 03, 2007, 07:16:28 PM

Hey Gang,

Cyclebrakes.com has the 2007 Galfer Catalog: http://www.cyclebrakes.com/html/catalogs.html

MODEL   Year      Front      Rear
GS 500    1989-1997    FK003D117    FK003D117R
GS 500    2005       FK003D454    FK003D454R
GS 500F   2006       FK003D559    FK003D559R

Cheers,
J

galahs · April 04, 2007, 02:32:28 AM

I purchased a Galfer front braided stainless steel brake line, was all good except one of the bolts they provided was the wrong thread!

I had to compensate by using the old bolt and two washers to make the brake line fit.

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