When Guns Are Outlawed ...

[Ed_in_Az]

 

[Old Mr. Wilson]

Ed, I know you are well versed but I like to point this out anyway.
Hell, look at LA, NYC, DC as well as England........disarm the citizenry!

For the life of me I can't understand WHY our Congressmen and Facist Liberals want us defenseless unless there is a plan with ulterior (sic?)
motives.

Gee, sure seems like it.

And of course as with all of their other failures that involved raping the working taxpayer, they want us to just "lie down on the floor and take it in the ass" and not say anything. Just like good little sheeple (sheep people for the uninformed).

[GeeP]

Recalibrate your fishfinder.

[davipu]

[Ed_in_Az]

 

[Cal Price]

Ed,
Old Bill challenged this guy and ordered him to stop, he chose to run, jump over a turnstile barrier and onto a crowded tube train. Given that such trains have been the main target it was not unreasonable to shoot. It is alleged he was wearing a heavy bulky coat and it was a hot day. There was the possibility of a "body bomb" like those all to common in Israel and used by the tamil Tigers in Sri-Lanka, hence the reference.

Very sad for him and his family, a dreadful thing to be sure. Had he not run things may well have had a different outcome. It has emerged that his permit to work in UK as an electrician expired a couple of years ago so in effect he was in UK illegally, this does not make the shooting more acceptable but it may explain why he ran with such devastating consequences. Collateral damage, is the term used when western bombers have hit wrong targets in Serbia, Afghanistan & Iraq. Sad but almost inevitable. Would you see US pilots on trial for collateral damage, I don't think so.

[Ed_in_Az]

 

[Cal Price]

So what is the answer and how is it relevant to guns being outlawed?

How should Police deal with a person they suspect, rightly or wrongly, might be a suicide bomber, it's a whole new ball-game for western police.

If every citizen in London packed a pistol would anything have been different?  if no-one carried, not even criminals how would it have been different? In all honesty I don't see your point.

I would be the last person to support the Police shooting people willy-nilly but under present circumstances what would we have them do?

[Ed_in_Az]

 

[gazingwa]

   
I love this ed... you are for profiling but when somebody that fits the profile, exits a building known to have terrorist connections and runs from cops into a subway that has been the target of more than one attack.... What are they supposed to do... it is sad, but the guy should have had more sense than to run from the cops especially on to the latest target of terrorist attacks.

[raylarrabee]

Our police can't execute people for running.

They can if they have probable cause to believe that the person committed a violent felony or if they have a reasonable belief that the person is threatening the police or others with deadly force.

[VTNewb]

[Ed_in_Az]

 

[CasiUSA]

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[raylarrabee]

Please post an example of EXECUTION BY POLICE performed AND SANCTIONED BY POLICE, in the USA.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/05/10/cincy.shooting/

[Ed_in_Az]

 

[callmelenny]

For the record, I agree that the shooting in the UK is evidence of a lurching toward facism that often results when a free society feels threatened.

HOWEVER, I don't see how gun ownership would have changed anything in this situation. Would bystanders shoot the police first? Would the victim pull a gun on the police?

This was the result of a policy that has nothing to do with gun ownership.

[Jake D]

No shaZam!.  I've never understood what the hell owning a gun had to do with that Brazilian guy getting shot.

Unless he is like a Commando or something.

[conflicttheorist]

If I had a gun, Ed and I totally would have started a gun battle to protect the brazilian guy.  Then someone would use the fact that we had guns and started a gun battle to justify the legalization of guns, because someone with a gun would have been able to stop us madmen.

[The Buddha]

<snippage>
"body bomb" like those all to common in Israel and used by the tamil Tigers in Sri-Lanka, hence the reference.

<snippage>

Small correction ... Not just in SL, In India as well ... Rajiv Gandhi assasinated by a body bomb in 1989.
Cool.
Srinath.