No helmet question...

[fat_sac]

I'm ultra conservative, and I stunt...figurethatoneout.

I salute ya! [/quote]

ROFLMAO!! I also drink everyday. Maybe I'm like the rest of the republicans in the world. Even though I'm just a college student. I have seriously conservative govt'l views though.

[aaronstj]

I'm ultra conservative, and I stunt...figurethatoneout.

Ultraconservative and stunt isn't that odd.  It's the ultraconservative and not a complete duck that I'm having trouble with.

[fat_sac]

LMAO, I was hoping I was just weird. Damn.

I'm ultra conservative, and I stunt...figurethatoneout.

Ultraconservative and stunt isn't that odd.  It's the ultraconservative and not a complete duck that I'm having trouble with.

[RedShift]

The better part of 160 minutes without a rely!!     Have all the flames subsided?

To topic. Okay:

As soon as I can predict my next accident (my fault or not) is when I stop wearing gear.  I have family that I want to come home to.

Perhaps those that don't wear believe they will never get into accidents that test their need.  Ride bare.  Statistics say they'll be right most of the time.  But it's the rest of the time that I dress for when I ride.

There.  Said my piece.  Have at it then...

[Badger]

Hmm...wow.

Just to clear things up:

I wasn't trying to say, "boo...everyone should be forced to wear a helmet".  I do believe that everyone should be given a choice (I'm a big supporter of Darwin).  I just don't understand the thought process.  I can choose to poke myself in the eye with a sharp stick if I want to...but I don't, and most people tend to go with me on that one.

What I don't understand is why people choose to do something that is pretty convincingly a life threateningly dangerous thing.  It's sort of like saying, "I'm going to shoot you in the chest...you can put on this kevlar vest if you want to, but you don't have to...I might not hit you." and then having them decide against the vest.

Is it because they don't like being hot?  Is it because they feel they have better visibility?  Is it because of peer pressure or pack mentality?  Are they trying to "Fight the man"?  Or do they think that there is no possible way that they could get into a situation where a helmet might be a useful thing to be wearing?

Again, I'm interested because of the sheer proportions of people in RI that I see without helmets on.  These are people that have helmets strapped to their bike (too close to MA not to), so it's not that they didn't want to spend the $$.  My thought is that people just don't want to be the wimp that wears a helmet...so I'd bet on pack mentality.  I think it's different in NH...with a state motto like "Live free or die" I think they have different reasons.  I've noticed in NH that HD riders go without, but sportbike riders more frequently have helmets.  In RI I rarely see anyone, regardless of bike type, with a helmet.  With one exception:  I can't recall seeing a BMW rider without a helmet (and usually full gear).

I was wondering if other places see similar proportions, or if there's a "tipping point" where if a certain % of folks go helmetless, everybody will.  Are there places where even though helmets are not required, the majority of people still wear them?  I don't personally know anyone that would ride without a helmet, so I have no basis to relate to.

Didn't mean to cause a stir. :dunno:

[ajgs500]

Badger it wasn't you.  You didn't cause a stir.  Some people are just disrespectful like that and have to cause problems.

[pandy]

Didn't mean to cause a stir. :dunno:

Not your fault, Badger. Some children here just can't behave.

[snowhownd]

Maine is a no helmet law state and I'd say it is close to RI as you say... I'd say less than 10% of the riders I see are wearing ANY kind of helmet.  The majority of those with helmets, I'd say almost all are sportbike/metric cruiser riders.  Haha, I saw a Harley guy with a full faced helmet yesterday and I thought, what's wrong with that picture to myself for a second before I realized he looked weird because he actually had a full faced helmet on!!!  I don't know, I ride with a bunch of Harley riders and only one of the bunch of 'em wears a helmet (and she has only been riding 2 years - and only wears a non DOT brain bucket)... so really not much if any protection.  I think it is just because no one else does, so why should I be the geek that does mentality.  I will probably go to a cruiser once I run the wheels off the GS, and I sure hope to think I will continue to wear at least a half helmet (Always wear a full face now)

[SPDave]

"I don't think we should have helmet laws.  It seems that we'd have a lot less trouble with bikers that way."

-Lewis Grizzard

Not that I completely agree, but there's some truth there.

[callmelenny]

I was just filling up with gas and a guy next to me was on a bike. He was wearing  a DOT half helmet with the chin strap dangling. As he finished up and was leaving I kind of gestured to him that the strap was just hanging down.

His reply, " I can't stand strapping the damn thing" :dunno:

I guess it might help on the initial impact but why bother if it is just going to fly off?

[97gs500e]

Im ultra-conservative.  Arnold in 2008!  

Full-face helmet and gloves all the live long day.  

[fat_sac]

Im ultra-conservative.  Arnold in 2008!  

Are you stupid??? I'm ultra conservative. If you support the governator...then you are a f%$king west coast liberal !!!



:guns: YAY!! There's nothing like having an ACTOR [for those that are too stupid to know what a politician is] as a damned governer? You fucks from the land of fruits and nuts need to wake up.

[RedShift]

.... If you support the governator...then you are a f%$king west coast liberal !!!

...  There's nothing like having an ACTOR [for those that are too stupid to know what a politician is] as a damned governer? You fucks from the land of fruits and nuts need to wake up.

And you need to get a dictionary.  It's spelled governor!!  :x You are not even consistent when you're wrong!!

[oanglade]

I think people should take responsibility for their choices.

If they want to ride without helmets, then they should be able to show that enough insurance coverage, etc.
That way, the rest of us don't have to cover for your decisions.

I believe that in Florida helmets are not mandatory, but if you don't wear a helmet, you must be able to show a higher level of insurance coverage.

I couldn't imagine riding without a helmet, just like I couldn't imagine driving without a seat belt.

[roguegeek]

.... If you support the governator...then you are a f%$king west coast liberal !!!

...  There's nothing like having an ACTOR [for those that are too stupid to know what a politician is] as a damned governer? You fucks from the land of fruits and nuts need to wake up.

And you need to get a dictionary.  It's spelled governor!!  :x You are not even consistent when you're wrong!!

:lol:  :lol:

[roguegeek]

I'm in Cali, but I'll sometimes do some riding in Arizona where there is no helmet law. If you know me, you know I wont ride unless I have proper gear on. The feeling I get is it's generally looked down upon to even wear a helmet there. You see other motorcyclists look at you and you know they're thinking things like "puss" or "ghey". Of course, that makes a little bit of sense in gun-toting, ghey-bashing, ultra conservative Arizona.

One of my friends there is a Phoenix firefighter. He goes on bike calls all the time. You wouldn't believe some of the stories I've heard. It's real simple when you look at it from his perspective. If you're involved in a crash in AZ and you aren't wearing a helmet (which is most people there), you die. The few times he did go on calls where the person lived, it was because of their helmet.

[pandy]

Are you stupid??? I'm ultra conservative. If you support the governator...then you are a f%$king west coast liberal !!!
:guns: YAY!! There's nothing like having an ACTOR [for those that are too stupid to know what a politician is] as a damned governer? You fucks from the land of fruits and nuts need to wake up.

Stop sugar-coating things! Tell us how you REALLY feel!    

[fat_sac]

:lol:  :lol:  :lol: I love waking up and seeing who I pissed off when I was drunk.  :lol:    :lol:  :lol:

[Ed_in_Az]

I'm in Cali, but I'll sometimes do some riding in Arizona where there is no helmet law. If you know me, you know I wont ride unless I have proper gear on. The feeling I get is it's generally looked down upon to even wear a helmet there. You see other motorcyclists look at you and you know they're thinking things like "puss" or "ghey". Of course, that makes a little bit of sense in gun-toting, ghey-bashing, ultra conservative Arizona.

One of my friends there is a Phoenix firefighter. He goes on bike calls all the time. You wouldn't believe some of the stories I've heard. It's real simple when you look at it from his perspective. If you're involved in a crash in AZ and you aren't wearing a helmet (which is most people there), you die. The few times he did go on calls where the person lived, it was because of their helmet.

Unless you're Pyschic, which I DOUBT, you have no idea what other riders are thinking  as you pass, so CUT THE CRAP. As for wrecking with and without helmets, I've done both, and walked away from totaled bikes.

[pandy]

:lol:  :lol:  :lol: I love waking up and seeing who I pissed off when I was drunk.  :lol:    :lol:  :lol:

That makes one of you!  

Hope your hangover isn't too bad (but bad enough that you don't do that too often). :p:p:p