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too much oil

Started by mike24, December 30, 2005, 05:55:49 PM

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mike24

last time when i checked the oil i probablly added too much, and now its like 1 cm (half an inch+-) above the F line. is this critical? should i do somthing about this?

thanks.

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it'll be fine.  prob burn off

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Straymonolith

I dont know. A cm over F is prolly close to an extra quart. Might want to syphon some out.

john

I'd err on the side of caution and drain off a little bit.  if you have some time you can loosen up the drain plug and stick a can under it to drain off 1/2 quart or so.
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A quart??? I doubt very much 1cm on the dipstick equates to that much oil in the crankcase, dont forget those cases are full of gears, a crank and big-ends! I would drain some oil out from the sump into a clean container then pour it back in till the level hit the dipstick line.

GeeP

I'd drain it out.  Too much oil will bathe the crankshaft in the sump.  The result is similar to putting milk in the blender.  Lots of foam!  A little loss in power too.
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RVertigo

Your best bet is to do an oil change and make sure you only put the right amount of oil in it...

Probably not the best way to do it...  But, you can also crack the seal to the oil filter and let a little oil come out that way...  If you can't swing a full oil change right now, it's better than leaving all the extra oil in there...

dbarile

If you are near your next change point; I'd just change it.

If you just really don't want to loose all that new oil, then I'd suggest using a CLEAN piece of clear tubing and a turkey baster to suck out the excess.

You could also go to the drugstore and buy a syringe to suck it out with.  They make syringes in several sizes, so you want one that is small enough to fit it the oil fill opening, but not so small you will be there all day.

You could also loosen the drain plug, but if you are like me you will probably lose you grip on it and end up draining out all the oil.
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gsmetal

I agree with dbarile - suck some out with a syringe.

Don't ignore it .. take some out.
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mike24

thanks guys, also -

i rode like this for brobablly 300-400 miles, could i have done any damage?

pantablo

Quote from: sledgeA quart??? I doubt very much 1cm on the dipstick equates to that much oil in the crankcase, dont forget those cases are full of gears, a crank and big-ends! I would drain some oil out from the sump into a clean container then pour it back in till the level hit the dipstick line.

keep in mind that the amount of oil measured from the L mark to the H mark is one quart, and thats a little over 1cm IIRC.




Quote from: mike24i rode like this for brobablly 300-400 miles, could i have done any damage?.
you should be fine. too much oil will cause funny things to happen to the clutch operation until it burns off but [probably] no harm.
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makenzie71

only real harm you could face with too much oil is it "frothing" or whatever around the crank...but companies anymore add all kinds of stuff to prevent such a thing from happening.

You'll fine but if you're worried just crack the drain open for a few seconds.

I'm kinda curious how you can see an extra cm of oil, though...unless the GS uses a dipstick instead of a siteglass (been a while, I can't remember, but I don't ever remember checking oil on a bike with a dipstick).  The full mark is like 3mm from the top of the glass...

Oni

Quote from: makenzie71
I'm kinda curious how you can see an extra cm of oil, though...unless the GS uses a dipstick instead of a siteglass (been a while, I can't remember, but I don't ever remember checking oil on a bike with a dipstick).  The full mark is like 3mm from the top of the glass...

Dragonlover's '98 GS has a dipstick.  My EX has a circular window.

makenzie71

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Quote from: makenzie71
I'm kinda curious how you can see an extra cm of oil, though...unless the GS uses a dipstick instead of a siteglass (been a while, I can't remember, but I don't ever remember checking oil on a bike with a dipstick).  The full mark is like 3mm from the top of the glass...

Dragonlover's '98 GS has a dipstick.  My EX has a circular window.

Were 94's like this?  I really didn't have the bike too long and I can't remember...every bike that I have right now has the sight-glass.

Jace009gs

ya GSers have dipsticks :lol: Everyone else in the world of motorcycles use the sight window....Which is just as bad when the oil is new because my "window" is slightly tinted from road grime but new oil appears clear [tint=very close to new oil golden brown color]
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that_guy

An extra qt of oil could result in spun bearings if ridden too hard I would think..

makenzie71

Quote from: Jace009gsya GSers have dipsticks :lol: Everyone else in the world of motorcycles use the sight window....Which is just as bad when the oil is new because my "window" is slightly tinted from road grime but new oil appears clear [tint=very close to new oil golden brown color]
I'd clean it pronto...

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Quote from: makenzie71
Quote from: Jace009gsya GSers have dipsticks :lol: Everyone else in the world of motorcycles use the sight window....Which is just as bad when the oil is new because my "window" is slightly tinted from road grime but new oil appears clear [tint=very close to new oil golden brown color]
I'd clean it pronto...

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Blueknyt

Quoten extra qt of oil could result in spun bearings if ridden too hard I would think.


Can you back that up with a little bit more logic?.  please?


what i know of spun bearings from engines ive taken apart or at least know the history of thier use: spun bearings generaly are beaten outa shape enough to move in thier saddles (block or rod)

over reving, Poor oiling, Overheated/broken down oil  generaly any condition that allows the crank to touch the bearing shell.
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damn...how do you clean that?

Quote from: BlueknytCan you back that up with a little bit more logic?.  please?

Old school logic.  Way back when oils didn't have the same kind of addatives they do today.  If you take a cruder variety of the standard 5w40 a lot of folks use and add too much the oil level will contact the crank.  When the crank hit the oil and started splashing and sloshing it around at 5000+rpm, the oil would begine to "froth" and turn into a foamy variety of it's former self.

Imagine it like this:  Your oiling system sucks oil out of the pan much like you'd suck milk from a glass with a straw.  Now take a 20oz bottle, put about 2oz of milk in it, shake the total hell out of the bottle for a moment then try and suck out the milk with a straw.  You won't get much.  Why?  Because you've turned the milk into huge bubbles instead of a steady, liquid substance...much like a crank would do to oil 15~20 years ago.

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