Intregrated Brakes

[JRider]

Does anyone have a GS500 with an intregrated brakes system? I just brought and 2006 Gs500 and i'm not sure if it has intregrated brakes b/c i don't have my user manuel yet.[img]http://[img]

[Alphamazing]

It doesn't have integrated brakes, thankfully. You'll be thankful for that later. Only a few bikes on the market still have that, including the Honda Interceptor 800.

[blue05twin]

Your user manual should be under your set on top of of the tool set.

[budget speed demon]

is integrated brakes the same as an anti dive system on the forks? or is it some form of the front and back brakes being linked as one system?

[Jake D]

The latter. 

Linked front and back.  Silliness. 

[natedawg120]

yeah i rode a goldwing with integrated brakes and it was a little unsettling.  I'll stick with more control over dummy control.

[budget speed demon]

Well that's just stupid because if you slam on the brakes, the front will lock up and you'll go down. But with traditional brakes you can slam on the back all you want with little consequence, other than flat spots on your tire.

[JRider]

Thanx for the imput

[Jake D]

Well that's just stupid because if you slam on the brakes, the front will lock up and you'll go down. But with traditional brakes you can slam on the back all you want with little consequence, other than flat spots on your tire.

No offense, but I consider this to be very bad advice.  The majority of your braking power should come from the front brake, which is difficult if not impossible to lock up.

If you lock up the rear brake you are asking for a highside.  If you ever DO happen to lock up the rear brake, keep it locked up until you come to a complete stop.  Letting off the back brake is what can cause a high side (read, nasty crash). 

[RVertigo]

From what I understand, most integrated systems link the front brake with the back, but not the back with the front...

So, when you're stopping with the front it will apply 60% (or something) to the rear...  But, when you hit the rear, it does nothing to the front.

If I'm wrong, then integrated brakes are really dumb...

And, no... GS has none of that fancy-schmancy stuff.

[Alphamazing]

From what I understand, most integrated systems link the front brake with the back, but not the back with the front...

So, when you're stopping with the front it will apply 60% (or something) to the rear...  But, when you hit the rear, it does nothing to the front.

If I'm wrong, then integrated brakes are really dumb...

And, no... GS has none of that fancy-schmancy stuff.

It applys front brake when you use the rear, too. They're dumb.

[RVertigo]

So you can eat it in corners?  That's a feature?

[Alphamazing]

So you can eat it in corners?  That's a feature?

Pretty much. A handy feature for people like me who seem to do it anyways. It'll just let me do it faster!!

[RVertigo]

I do it too...  But, only when I'm going really fast and it's wet out... 

[NiceGuysFinishLast]

So you can eat it in corners?  That's a feature?

Dude.. your post, and Alpha's response made me laugh out loud.. my roommates think I'm nuts... glad I'm not the only one that thinks this is a dumb option...

[Blueknyt]

Also keep in mind, MOST of the Intergrated braking systems are put on very large and heavy motorcycles. Most riders of this kind of bike tend to NOT run into corners hot,Late brake, or drag the pegs with a smile, rather instead they tend to pull trailers and have Modular helmets with innercom systems and Climate controled Beverage holder.

[skrap1r0n]

So you can eat it in corners?  That's a feature?

Pretty much. A handy feature for people like me who seem to do it anyways. It'll just let me do it faster!!

I thought sneezing was your nemesis, AlphaFire...

[Alphamazing]

I think life in general is my problem! 

[NiceGuysFinishLast]

Also keep in mind, MOST of the Intergrated braking systems are put on very large and heavy motorcycles. Most riders of this kind of bike tend to NOT run into corners hot,Late brake, or drag the pegs with a smile, rather instead they tend to pull trailers and have Modular helmets with innercom systems and Climate controled Beverage holder.

While I do agree blueknyt... check out this thread from awhile ago, that I just happened to remember reading:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=21300.90

crazy stuff in the first post on the last (7th) page

[budget speed demon]

Well that's just stupid because if you slam on the brakes, the front will lock up and you'll go down. But with traditional brakes you can slam on the back all you want with little consequence, other than flat spots on your tire.

No offense, but I consider this to be very bad advice.  The majority of your braking power should come from the front brake, which is difficult if not impossible to lock up.

If you lock up the rear brake you are asking for a highside.  If you ever DO happen to lock up the rear brake, keep it locked up until you come to a complete stop.  Letting off the back brake is what can cause a high side (read, nasty crash). 

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You think the front is hard to lock up?   
I'm not trying to insult you, but your comments seem to come from someone who has done more reading on racing, then practical experience on a bike. Have you ever had a high side? Or a low side? Or locked up the front brake? Or only heard about them?

As for asking for a high side, its only going to happen if you lock up the rear in a corner and then regain traction quickly. Locking up the rear in a straight line results in the classic 'bicycle skid'

And I think you should limit the use of your front brake because if the front wheel locks up, YOU'RE GOING DOWN. There's no ifs, ands, or maybe's about it.
If the front locks up, you're ending up with your face in the dirt.

I hardly ever use my front brake. I reserve it for those times when I need the extra little stopping power.