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Started by jefferygs500, March 30, 2006, 04:02:55 PM

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jefferygs500

hello, Ok, like you probally seen my post before. I Had took my motor out and painted my frame and stuff, and done little work to the bike. Put the motor back in and Very Little Power. When i give it to the bike she just kinda bogs... I got my coil's tested and they said the one on the throttle side was gone. Bought a new one. 165.00 canadian. wow, didn't bother me cause they said it was the problem. Put it on still the same thing. heres the information i got, took the plugs out, brand new plugs. The plug on the throttle side is BLACK, Plug on Clutch Side WHITE.. Tryed for fire, and on the throttle side, and when lots of fire at idle, when i step the bike up pretty much no fire at all, maybe this is normal. Anyways guys, could you guys please help, I wanna get out riding. and planning on going for a ride with a few guys. I also cleaned the carbs up.
thanks
hope you guys can help.
Thanks for everyone's help.

Jake D

Sync your carbs?  Lean on left, rich on right.  Sync your carbs.  Just a guess.  I'm not a carb guru.  My specialty is knives. 
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jefferygs500

how do i sync my carbs lol, whats that mean. I am good with working on bikes but never heard that before. help please.
Thanks for everyone's help.

JamesG

RTFM!  :flipoff:

just kidding. Buy a manual if you are going to do any kind of work on a bike, much less remove and reinstall the motor!

a carb sync or syncronization is adjusting the screw throttle pully between the carbs that control carb butterflies. Basically you are getting both carbs to idle the same.  So that both cylinders will have the same combustion mix.

May not be the right fix, but it will eliminate a possible cause, and doesn't cost anything.

If you had the manual you would know this.  :icon_lol:
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jefferygs500

kk guys, well i bought the bike off a friend of mine, he never had a manual. And this is the first problem i had with the bike, Like i said, i'm pretty good with them, had 4 or 5 dirtbikes, and done all my own work. anyways can ya tell me how to no if the carbs are both working together right? what should i do to no?
Thanks for everyone's help.

jefferygs500

one other thing, when i put the bike up on the centerstand and give it alot of gas, seems perfect, Just when the weight is on the tire, that's what it seems like anyways? seems perject on the stand.
Thanks for everyone's help.

werase643

check your ground wires
scrape the paint off the frame where a black wire attaches

scrape the paint off where the coils attach to the frame

since you painted it....
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Quote from: Wrecent_Wryder on March 30, 2006, 04:39:44 PM
Quote from: JamesG on March 30, 2006, 04:32:29 PM
a carb sync or syncronization is adjusting the screw throttle pully between the carbs that control carb butterflies. Basically you are getting both carbs to idle the same.  So that both cylinders will have the same combustion mix.

Is this different for the later models with dual throttle cables? I'm assuming it must be- there are independent cable adjustments. Haven't taken the tank off yet to really look.
There is only one sychronizing screw for the two butterfly shafts.  The screw does not adjust either of the throttle cables; the throttle cables have their own adjusters for slack.
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jefferygs500

Ok, I was thinking, trying to get this figured out, umm i scraped the paint for my coils. but there is a black wire that goes to the back of the engine almost on the bottom. it's a black wire, and a painted that part when i painted my engine?? Would this do it??? something else, i thought off. I took the left lower side case off, the one that covers the clutch and gears. on the other side of the bike, on the lower side, i remember the little round plate, and took off the Magnets, and a ground there. could someone show me a picture of this, so i could make there that's right. thanks
Thanks for everyone's help.

Rema1000

Wasn't there a problem, where the little ground wire to the battery breaks/comes loose, then you only get one coil firing?
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Quote from: Wrecent_Wryder on March 30, 2006, 08:27:49 PM
Quote from: scratch on March 30, 2006, 05:46:57 PM

There is only one sychronizing screw for the two butterfly shafts. The screw does not adjust either of the throttle cables; the throttle cables have their own adjusters for slack.


Ok... so what's the advantage of two cables?

More direct throttle control, since the problem of the spring in the carb not being able to pull back a stuck cable is eliminated.

Jeffery: grounding of the engine should not be your problem since one of the plugs works fine.

jefferygs500

ya i dunno, i'm done, until you guys tell me something, both of my plugs are wiring at idle. but when i step the bike up, they stop??? is this what's suspose to happen. Like i said, i painted my engine while i had the bike out, could the ground on the back of the engine be bad??? would this do it? hopefully i can get this straightened out today.
Thanks for everyone's help.

werase643

couple of questions...
did the bike run good/great when you bought it?
did it run good right before you painted it?
did you touch the carbs?

if it ran good and you didn't touch the carbs....it is probably not the carbs

it the bike will start the main ground wire is good

i still think a wire is loose or something is not attached properly
go thru the bike and check all elec connections
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jefferygs500

hey guys, Ya the bike worked wickit when i bought it. The bike worked soon as i took it out of storage. It ran perject before i painted it too. I painted the frame and i painted the motor and took the motor out all the same time. I only took the carbs off to clean them, thought maybe it was dirt. The bike will start good. But sometimes she sputters while she's idling. Like idling rough. What wires should i check for that might be bad?? Thanks guys.. Hope you guys can help me out.
Thanks for everyone's help.

The Buddha

Auxillary ground. Battery cable negative to wiring harness there is a thinnish wire ... its plug being a bit loose etc ... kills 1 side.
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jefferygs500

Explain a little more please..
Thanks for everyone's help.

jefferygs500

Thanks for everyone's help.

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