Racing shift pattern?

[Wrecent_Wryder]

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[Alphamazing]

This is common on all MotoGP bikes, as well as most AMA bikes. Street riders do it for the "cool" factor.

[D-Day]

This is common on all MotoGP bikes, as well as most AMA bikes. Street riders do it for the "cool" factor.

All my race bikes were set up this way, all my track bikes are still set up this way, and most of my streetbikes are set up the same way.  The only ones that aren't are the ones my wife rides.

It is more than the "cool factor".  One will never miss an upshift with a GP pattern.  Nothing more fun than finding a false nuetral while hurrying an upshift, and revving it to the moon.

On the track, it allows one to grab an upshift when leaned over so far that one couldn't get their foot under the shift lever.

Plus, it gives me one more excuse not to let people ride my bikes.

[galahs]

D-Day, does this get confusing when you ride normal bikes with a standard street pattern gearbox?

[annguyen1981]

All my race bikes were set up this way, all my track bikes are still set up this way, and most of my streetbikes are set up the same way.  The only ones that aren't are the ones my wife rides.

It is more than the "cool factor".  One will never miss an upshift with a GP pattern.  Nothing more fun than finding a false nuetral while hurrying an upshift, and revving it to the moon.

On the track, it allows one to grab an upshift when leaned over so far that one couldn't get thier foot under the shift lever.

Plus, it gives me one more excuse not to let people ride my bikes.

What is needed to convert a GS500f to this pattern?

[Wrecent_Wryder]

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[annguyen1981]

If it's superior, why isn't it becoming more common on the street?

I was wondering the same thing

[PatrickInNC]

I have all my bikes set up like this as well. Cept the GS. It doesn't get confusing for me. The GS I ride every day. If you switch to this, one way to get used to it is to keep your toe above the shfiter. I prefer it as well, for the same reasons stated as above. With the Ducati's a lever on the shift shaft is all that is needed, and linkage is needed to make it regular shift.

In order to do it with the GS you will need linkage, not hard at all if you have shift linkage. When the shift linkage under the shift shaft it will be normal/reverse and with it above the shift shaft it will be normal/reverse.

-Patrick

[Wrecent_Wryder]

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[Wrecent_Wryder]

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[ukchickenlover]

So... am I getting that this pattern is just the normal shift pattern flipped upside down, with neutral still between first and second? Somehow I got the impression that this was something else- like having neutral on top, all the gears beneath that...

Yes!!!

[D-Day]

D-Day, does this get confusing when you ride normal bikes with a standard street pattern gearbox?

You would think that it would be confusing, but it isn't.  Lot's of cars have different shift patterns, let alone the commercial trucks I drive, but you learn to adapt. 

I have buddies who have bikes with the shift on the right side, brake on left, and while that is harder to adapt to, it isn't really a big problem.

I have a Kawasaki H2 (750 triple two stroke) that has neutral on the bottom instead of between first and second.  Easy to find nuetral, but not so good if you do one too many downshifts and gas it. Don't ask me how I know that.

[pantablo]

for someone who is riding the gs as their first bike I wouldnt recommend changing to GP shift pattern. too confusing.

actually there are lots of club racers who still use standard shifting. it isnt too often yoru average rider (or average racer even) needs to shift mid corner leaned over so far to not be able to get his toe under the lever. There are a bunch that do use it too, and a bunch of street riders that do it too-although there's NEVER a need for it on the street. There, its simply for cool factor.

[budget speed demon]

D-Day, does this get confusing when you ride normal bikes with a standard street pattern gearbox?

You would think that it would be confusing, but it isn't.  Lot's of cars have different shift patterns, let alone the commercial trucks I drive, but you learn to adapt. 

I have buddies who have bikes with the shift on the right side, brake on left, and while that is harder to adapt to, it isn't really a big problem.

I have a(750 triple two stroke) that has neutral on the bottom instead of between first and second.  Easy to find nuetral, but not so good if you do one too many downshifts and gas it. Don't ask me how I know that.

You have a Kawasaki H2??? WOW! What's it like to ride? It must be insane when you hit the power surge. Is it stock? I know most of them ended up being torn apart for race/drag bike projects. Man I envy you.

[onefastgs500]

to change a gs 500 to gp shift pattern you merely split the cases and replace the shift drum with one out of a gs450 i've done this many times alyhough my racebike is standard shift because that's how i like it!

[Alphamazing]

to change a gs 500 to gp shift pattern you merely split the cases and replace the shift drum with one out of a gs450 i've done this many times alyhough my racebike is standard shift because that's how i like it!

Another way to do it is to get rearsets with a shift linkage and then play around with that.

[D-Day]

You have a Kawasaki H2??? WOW! What's it like to ride? It must be insane when you hit the power surge. Is it stock? I know most of them ended up being torn apart for race/drag bike projects. Man I envy you.

Motor is stock, with reworked ports and heads, Factory (the brand) expansion chambers.  I have two other two stroke triples (a 350 and a 500) and they all hit the powerband hard, but the H2 is just silly.  I grin everytime I ride it. BTW, it is a '73 H2 motor stuffed into a '76 KH500 chassis.