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Started by ets_gs500f2004, June 01, 2006, 11:53:12 AM

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ets_gs500f2004

hey guys !!!!! I was wondering on dry and wet how was the 150/60zr-17. Especaly on wet if its really good or is it goin to be really sleepery... if you had the experience if you could tell me about it.... it would be gratefull!!!!
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TheGoodGuy

that's 2 sizes wider than stock.. first it wont fit on your rim. You will pinch it and its not worth..

the wet and dry handling is nt by tire size.. its by tread pattern and compound that is made up of.
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ets_gs500f2004

well its cause the wider you go sometimes also gives beter handling on dry but sucks on wet
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ets_gs500f2004

and also since im thinking of it some guy already did it from what i believe so it should fit
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hmmmnz

i have a 3.5 inch rim here, (same as gs, and its got the 150 tyre on on) i wouldn't ride on it though, because its to wide for the rim it flattens out the top,  so taking corners would no doubt be a dodgy affair, if you want to go bigger only go 1 size above standard,
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Chuck

Is the stock size tire (not stock rubber, which blows) giving you trouble?  I don't think the GS has enough torque to require a larger tire.  Or do you just want the GS to look like a bike with more torque?

TragicImage

I wouldn't go any bigger than a 140, unless you switch to a Katana Rim, then you can go up to a 160
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rangerbrown

i think he want to lean way over.
nee down mother F***ers

runsilent

Quote from: Chuck on June 01, 2006, 02:47:22 PM
Is the stock size tire (not stock rubber, which blows) giving you trouble?  I don't think the GS has enough torque to require a larger tire.  Or do you just want the GS to look like a bike with more torque?

Most common reason for putting the 150/60 tire on the 3.5" GS500 or EX500 rim is to use the supersport tires.  It's the only size they come in that can be used on the std rim and many are doing so.

If you want to run some good sport touring radials, the only size most come in to fit the GS rims is the 150/70 except the Dunlop D205 and Avon AV46 which also come in the 140/80 size.

Quote from: hmmmnz on June 01, 2006, 12:49:58 PM
i have a 3.5 inch rim here, (same as gs, and its got the 150 tyre on on) i wouldn't ride on it though, because its to wide for the rim it flattens out the top, so taking corners would no doubt be a dodgy affair, if you want to go bigger only go 1 size above standard,

Actually the 150 mounted on the 3.5" rim is rounder than it would be on it's preferred size 4.0" rim.  I've been running a 150/70 Lasertec rear for 6k miles now and it handles as good as anything I've used on the GS's including a couple 130/80 Z2 and a 140/80 AV45 sport touring radials.

Quote from: ets_gs500f2004 on June 01, 2006, 11:53:12 AM
hey guys !!!!! I was wondering on dry and wet how was the 150/60zr-17. Especaly on wet if its really good or is it goin to be really sleepery... if you had the experience if you could tell me about it.... it would be gratefull!!!!

Quote from: ets_gs500f2004 on June 01, 2006, 12:24:46 PM
well its cause the wider you go sometimes also gives beter handling on dry but sucks on wet

Someone on another current thread just ordered the Sportec M1 tires with a 150/60 rear.  The 150/60 M1 is 143 mm wide on it's 4.0 preferred rim so it would be 138 mm wide on our 3.5" rim or 5.43" wide.  The current GS500 OE BT45 130/70 tire is 5.3" wide on the 3.5 rim.  About .13 or a little over !/8" wider shouldn't make it suck on wet.   :laugh: :laugh:


Chuck

Quote from: rangerbrown on June 01, 2006, 03:39:57 PM
i think he want to lean way over.

I had to bondo and re-paint my fairing because of leaning over.  :) This was with a stock size tire.  I wouldn't worry about it unless you're really hardcore.  (I'm sure you are.)

Pablo's site has a few pages about tires on the GS:

http://pantablo500.tripod.com/id22.html
http://pantablo500.tripod.com/id26.html
http://pantablo500.tripod.com/id30.html

It looks like 150/60/17 is being used by a few people with success.  But they're not using this tire for the size, they're using it because better rubber compounds are available in that size.

werase643

get a 98 up katana 600/750 rear wheel.....slap it in the GS with the GS cush and install the 150 and it will actually have the correct profile

i think the brake pads will wear a little funny but i don't use rear brakes.....so i don't care

I just slid one in a RG-V swingarm moddified to fit a GS wheel
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rangerbrown

Quote from: Chuck on June 01, 2006, 03:53:02 PM
Quote from: rangerbrown on June 01, 2006, 03:39:57 PM
i think he want to lean way over.

I had to bondo and re-paint my fairing because of leaning over.  :) This was with a stock size tire.  I wouldn't worry about it unless you're really hardcore.  (I'm sure you are.)



holy crap you too. i thought i was the only one draging a nee at full tilt
nee down mother F***ers

Jason

QuoteIt looks like 150/60/17 is being used by a few people with success.  But they're not using this tire for the size, they're using it because better rubber compounds are available in that size.

Yes I just ordered the 150/60-17 M-1's because of both size and the compound. It is scheduled to be here the 8th so hopefully I can have them mounted that weekend and get a little ride report in. Ultimately I wanted a stickier radial tire, the fact that it will be a hair wider and posably look better is just icing on the cake.  O0
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pantablo

yeah, I ran a 150/60 on the stock gs rim. nice and sticky. tire pinches on the rim slightly so it crowns more than usual, leaving you a smaller contact patch with the ground. I noticed it in how easily the rear would lock up under even moderate rear braking. the pinching also leaves about 1/4" of tread at the edges that cannot physically make contact with the ground, no matter how leaned over you are-engine will touch down before you get to it. as the tire wears though that edge where the tire is used/not used at the edge becomes very sharp and if you get to it as you're leaned over bike will suddenly flop into turn, unnervingly. also when you're on that edge you have minimal contact patch with the ground.

best to stick to 130 or 140 section tire. bike handles better too. more neutral turn in.
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ets_gs500f2004

well its cause reason #1 looks beter  #2 i want michelin pilot power #3 the h rated tire doesnt stick for shaZam! wants to slide every where and i dont like that..... im not that crazy but soon ill be riding with an r6 so i got to find some thing to keep up lol when i get the cash ill put a jet kit
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runsilent

Quote from: ets_gs500f2004 on June 02, 2006, 04:30:17 AM
well its cause reason #1 looks beter  #2 i want michelin pilot power #3 the h rated tire doesnt stick for shaZam! wants to slide every where and i dont like that..... im not that crazy but soon ill be riding with an r6 so i got to find some thing to keep up lol when i get the cash ill put a jet kit

You mentioned in another thread that your current tire was a 130/90 and now add it's H rated.  I had a MT90 (130/90) Dunlop touring tire on a GS that broke loose constantly, worse tire I had on the GS's for breaking loose; but it is a premium touring tire that serves it's intended purpose well.

There are many tires between H rated touring tires and an all out supersport tire.  Sport touring tires are a great compromise between touring and sport tires and the latest of these are excellent, bias and radial types.  You will pay for the excellent grip of the Pilot Power type tires with considerably shorter tire life, but they can be well worth it if you need/want the best possible street grip.  Many are doing so.

The 150/60 Pilot Power is the same width as my 150/70 Lasertec which is 149 mm reduced to 144 mm on the 3.5 wheel and is about as wide as you can put on the GS without altering the brake torque rod.  About 6 mm or 1/4" wider than the M1 Sportec mentioned above.  The Powers are highly rated in the wet and will be a world of difference better than the H rated touring tires in the wet regardless of tire width. 

Any of the current sport touring radial tires and the latest of the bias sport touring tires are that much better than the touring tires on the GS in the wet.   :thumb:

Although I would  never choose a tire based on appearance I totally agree that the 150 looks better than the 130 on the GS.   So why not if there is no performance loss to get the better look.    :laugh:


Alphamazing

Quote from: ets_gs500f2004 on June 02, 2006, 04:30:17 AM
well its cause reason #1 looks beter  #2 i want michelin pilot power #3 the h rated tire doesnt stick for shaZam! wants to slide every where and i dont like that..... im not that crazy but soon ill be riding with an r6 so i got to find some thing to keep up lol when i get the cash ill put a jet kit

1) It shouldn't be about looks alone, that's pretty f%$king stupid if you ask me.
2) Why not get some Sport Demons in stock sizes instead?
3) H rated has nothing to do with how well a tire sticks. That's simply a rating for maximum allowable speed

And instead of thinking sticky rubber will help you keep up, why not invest in some skills? I ride regularly with liter bikes and 600s and have no problem keeping up. Try being smoother so the tire doesn't break out as often, try keeping your corner speed up, etc.
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ets_gs500f2004

dont worry about me i was the only one to grind pedals with a gs400 in the course !!!!! i can corner really good its just i put it to the part it want to start to slide, and the speed rating also helps for faster responce trust me.....
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ets_gs500f2004

there is no way thinking about it that you can touch the fearing to the ground unless you droped it even if your leaned that bad your knee would of scraped the ground first badly
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Chuck

Quote from: ets_gs500f2004 on June 02, 2006, 01:26:05 PM
there is no way thinking about it that you can touch the fearing to the ground unless you droped it even if your leaned that bad your knee would of scraped the ground first badly

No, I checked my knees again just now and they're fine.  Thanks.  :icon_rolleyes:

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