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Started by makenzie71, October 20, 2006, 07:28:41 PM

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blue05twin

As a husband and a father, I have no sympathy for this person.  When she decided to kill herself she could have jumped off an overpass, shot herself or killed herself alot of different ways that would not have killed an innocent mother of 3 and wife.  Before I was 16 I knew what was right and wrong, being g ay is no excuse to murder someone.

I don't even think she should get a life sentence without parole, this was intentional murder and she should be executed (sp?). 

Maybe I have some anger issues I don't know but everytime I think of this and it happening to my wife and son I get really mad.  That had to be a tough decision to make either to stay with your daughter or go to your wife's funeral, I have no idea how I'd handle a decision like that.
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Onlypastrana199

My point was, that clearly she didnt consider those things first, she just did it. I wasn't saying that she shouldn't be punished, just trying to point out how she could do such a thing. She was self absorbed and consumed by her own pain and couldn't see past that.
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CirclesCenter

Quote from: Onlypastrana199 on October 21, 2006, 06:29:30 AM
My point was, that clearly she didnt consider those things first, she just did it. I wasn't saying that she shouldn't be punished, just trying to point out how she could do such a thing. She was self absorbed and consumed by her own pain and couldn't see past that.

Exactly why I promote removing her from this planet.
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wannabebiker2006

Quote from: CirclesCenter on October 21, 2006, 11:17:23 AM
Quote from: Onlypastrana199 on October 21, 2006, 06:29:30 AM
My point was, that clearly she didnt consider those things first, she just did it. I wasn't saying that she shouldn't be punished, just trying to point out how she could do such a thing. She was self absorbed and consumed by her own pain and couldn't see past that.

Exactly why I promote removing her from this planet.

Wasnt that Hitler's philosphy in dealing with the mentally ill??

CirclesCenter

You know, back in the days of usenet it was generally accepted that if you were the first one to reference hitler you had lost the arguement.

It's called Godwin's Law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law
Rich, RIP.

CirclesCenter

Mentally ill and criminally insane are two different things BTW.
Rich, RIP.

wannabebiker2006

Quote from: CirclesCenter on October 21, 2006, 11:56:12 AM
You know, back in the days of usenet it was generally accepted that if you were the first one to reference hitler you had lost the arguement.

It's called Godwin's Law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law

1. That law is just an excuse when you want to ignore a valid point.

2.  The 16 year old fits the description of mentally ill.  Had she purposely run her car into the other woman's car with the intent of trying to kill the occupant of the car whether she knew them or not, then she would be criminally insane.  The 16 year old was trying to kill herself not anyone else.

Did she screw up big time?? Yes!!  Do I think that she should be punished for her negligance??  Yes!!  But killing mentally ill people?? No.  We all make mistakes and some of us make bigger mistakes than other.  What's that saying about casting the first stone???

NiceGuysFinishLast

Ehh.. I have no sympathy for the girl. When I was younger, I had a few morbid thoughts, and how I'd kill myself was one of them. I wanted to do it in my car too. But I was gonna run my car into a bridge embankment, that way I'd be the only one hurt. I say life sentence without parole, none of this "serve 10 years, then be let out for good behavior" bullshit. I hate that shaZam!. If you get a sentence, you should serve it. I'm also all for the 2 drownings/revivals a day for the first week. Just my $.02
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I don't think pre-meditated murder is the appropriate charge here because, as CirclesCenter mentioned, her intention was not to kill anyone but herself.  Manslaughter 1 seems more appropriate, at least as far as criminal charges go.  I hope that the victim's family is taken care of for life on the civil side.


Egaeus

It'll probably be second degree murder.  If she's lucky, she'll get off with involuntary manslaughter, but there was enough gross negligence and public outrage that it will probably not be pled down to manslaughter. 
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blue05twin

They way our legal system works her lawyer will say she's the victim.  She needs help, she was mentally ill.  Then she'll end up in a nice cozy room in some mental hospital and be out in less than 3 years, claiming to be cured.

Total BS I'd rather my tax dollars were spent leathal injection or the chair rather than feeding, clothing and housing for her.  Or for any person that takes another life purposfully.

And no I wouldn't have the same feeling for someone that was in a real accident and killed someone.   If she really wanted to kill herself by driving into on comming traffic she would have picked a Mac truck instead of a smaller car.  Oh and she got a broken ankle?  I bet she was wearing her seat belt.  She's probally thought I'll have an accident, no one will die and I can get the attention that I want.

Generally I'm a nice guy I think, but something I'm an a$$.
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