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Started by SuperSanka, February 02, 2007, 03:10:17 PM

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OhDot

When I picked up my 2002 my front forks were bottoming out all the time.  I picked up a new pair of progressive springs and had my mechanic throw them in for me. (yes, i paid some other guy to do it  :icon_rolleyes: ) I still find from time to time on the bigger bumps they will bottom out.  Any ideas?

Kasumi

They may bottom out on really big bumps or ruts in the road thats normal. However most of the stuff you meet you should cope with fine. Did you get the correct ones for your weight etc... also you could try thicker oil.
Custom Kawasaki ZXR 400

OhDot

I just ordered progressive springs for a 2002 GS500.  They didn't ask any more questions.  Basically they most commonly bottom out when I am going into driveways that have a curb and an upward grade from the street.  Normal bumps in the road don't seem to have an appreciable effect.  I get around it by going over the curb VERY SLOWLY.

porsche4786

i installed mine (myself, very easy to do) I didn't change the oil or anything, and it was a huge improvement over stock. never bottomed out again.
-Kevin
2005 GS500F (sold), 1989 RX-7, 2006 GSXR 600

CirclesCenter

I'm just really curious, I want to know what is causing this.

It sounds like bottoming, or bent/binding something. (Even though you say it isn't bottoming the words "Kick in the nads" make me think it is.)

Ok I ride on racing weight springs with 15w oil. And I can nail anything and I don't get even a decent whack out of it.

Oh BTW, stock GS springs are ideal FOR A 55LB RIDER. So you might be bottoming...
Rich, RIP.

SuperSanka

Do I have the wrong definition of bottoming? For those of a stock GS, when you see a large unavoidalble bump on the highway, when you hit it do you feel as if you will almost lose control of the bike??

I thought I understood bottoming to be diving so far that you lose traction.
Please explain. Thanks!
1989 GS500 Red/Black
26,000 miles until the speedometer broke
1994 EX500 Black/Black
23,000 miles until the speedometer broke
Still looking: 1984 VF500 Interceptor...Anyone???

scratch

#26
Bottoming is when you hit the hard stop of your suspension travel.  Or, you coil bind the springs.  Bottoming out your suspension also means you're using up all of your suspension travel.

This is why setting sag is so important.

What is your current sag on the front forks?  Measure from the top of the dust seal, on the fork leg (slider), to the bottom of the lower triple clamp.  And, then measure the same with the front wheel off the ground.

Then have someone else measure with you on the bike (with the front wheel back on the ground).

Give us the numbers
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

SuperSanka

Ok but how do i get the front wheel off the ground?
1989 GS500 Red/Black
26,000 miles until the speedometer broke
1994 EX500 Black/Black
23,000 miles until the speedometer broke
Still looking: 1984 VF500 Interceptor...Anyone???

l3uddha

did you open up the forks yet?
my guess is that you're on stock springs & no spacers

scratch

If he's on stock springs with no spacers, not even stock spacers, then yes, I can see the ride being kinda harsh (the bike would be on the stops all the time).

Super - 13 and a half inch 2x4 block of wood.  See here: http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=27361.0
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

porsche4786

-Kevin
2005 GS500F (sold), 1989 RX-7, 2006 GSXR 600

SuperSanka

Just to update- you were all right, Stock suspension. My balls still hurt but I am buying progressive springs. Thanks for the help.
1989 GS500 Red/Black
26,000 miles until the speedometer broke
1994 EX500 Black/Black
23,000 miles until the speedometer broke
Still looking: 1984 VF500 Interceptor...Anyone???

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