watch this now: VA tech shootings

[l3uddha]

VA tech shootings & live video:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

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[CasiUSA]

Saw this, my cousin goes there, and he's OK thank god.
This is insane, what's wrong with people???
Don't we have someone on the board here who goes to VA Tech?

[Alphamazing]

Natedawg and vtilion both go there... 

[pandy]

  I hope they check in with us soon. 

[Jake D]

VTlion is in grad school there, but isn't Natedawg working for a computer/IT company now?

[Affschnozel]

Total shock!
Why the $%&* ?

[Alphamazing]

VTlion is in grad school there, but isn't Natedawg working for a computer/IT company now?

He works IT at Tech for their Vet school.

And I thought VTlion was a teacher. Hm.

All in all, I hope they are okay.

[Alphamazing]

After some research, it looks like Nate should have been far away from the shootings, and vtlion is actually at Penn State now.

I still hope they are both alright...

[RVertigo]

Terrible...  I feel sick... 

[bucks1605]

It's sickening, how can someone be so screwed up that they go and kill 31 people, innocent people.   

[The Buddha]

Jetswing and mark (dont know his actual name, his nick name is mark) both work in that area. And yes, WTF is wrong with people. I think the government is pushing people into quiet desperation ... and makes lunatics out of the marginal cases.
Cool.
Srinath.

[Jake D]

I think the media is partially to blame.   When psycho's and mass killers become celebrities, and crime scene shows dot the airwaves, this type of thing tends to become the common place in the "marginal cases' " minds.

The government, at least on the state level, does what it can.   Recall that after 23 people were killed in a cafeteria in Texas in 1991, that state passed "conceal and carry" laws, under the theory that if the citizens are armed, a shooter can be stopped sooner.  Now other states have followed suit.   Conceal and carry would not effect a college campus, however, due to the fact that guns are not allowed there.  That being said, I'd bet that this shooter had a list of priors as long as my arm and was likely not in lawful possession of those firearms, but the media will likely tell us soon if I am wrong.  He just joined the list of Most Notorious Criminals Ever, along with Dahmer, Manson, et al.  We are about to find out, no doubt, what makes a guy like this go over the edge.  My $.02 says it was society/media/socialization/mental disease rather than a governmental cause. 

[linuxman2003]

F**king sick.  just sick.

[Jake D]

Would VTlion have been in the engineering building?  It is called Norris Hall.   That is where many of the shooting occurred.  I hope he wasn't there.

[Turd Ferguson]

Would VTlion have been in the engineering building?  It is called Norris Hall.   That is where many of the shooting occurred.  I hope he wasn't there.

Alpha claims that he is at Penn State now.

[RVertigo]

Blame the government, blame the school, blame the media, blame the guns, blame video games, blame TV violence...

The part that any of these played are small if even existent...  Blame the people that wouldn't listen when this guy cried for help...  Blame his parents?  Maybe...  Blame his teachers?  Maybe...  Blame his friends?  Maybe...

The person that is truly to blame is him and him alone...  Guessing at the causes of this guy's psychosis is asinine.  The media will put buckets of so-called experts on TV stating "facts" about this or that and causes and symptoms.....   It's all total bullshit.


Who's to blame for any massacre like this?  Either simply mental disease or the society the murder lived in...  That's my best guess.


Even if it's all to blame, that only points to society...  Our society of loneliness, intolerance, and violence.

[LPC2104]

Would VTlion have been in the engineering building?  It is called Norris Hall.   That is where many of the shooting occurred.  I hope he wasn't there.

I'm pretty sure VtLion hasn't been to VaTech in some time.  I've rode with him here occassionally in State College PA and I don't know anything about him heading back to VA, although it's not like we speak regularly or anything.  I fairly certain he did his undergrad there and he's going for his PhD here at PSU.  He has a residence here in PA while he was finishing up school so I feel pretty confident he wouldn't be in VA.

You guys have me doubting myself though.....I hope he checks in soon.

[edit] - You check in soon too NateDawg.

[l3uddha]

yea I agree w/ you Rvert.

there are SO many factors that come into play to THROW someone over the edge like this.

since he put a bullet to his own head, the media will be looking for a scapegoat as usual...

I wonder who it'll be this time...

[vtlion]

hey gang.  I'm safe and sound at Penn State.

I spent most of the day teaching, and had only a little time to reflect about what happened at my alma mater today.  When I first heard the news that more than 20 people had been killed on campus, I became physically ill.  Somehow I made it through the day alright, though.

I have always looked back on my days at Virginia Tech fondly.  I have so many precious memories of my time there that in many ways they define who I have become as a person.  If I were to be stripped of them I honestly don't know who I would be anymore.

Today, 26,000 students had their precious memories forever tainted by senseless bloodshed.  That man took the lives of some three dozen people, wounded nearly as many, and left tens of thousands with a massacre as the singular defining moment of their college career... not a walk across a stage, not meeting a future spouse, not a championship game, but a slaughter.  I will try very hard to forgive him, whoever he is... but the prognosis is not good.

Today was a rare day for me.  I wasn't wearing anything with a VT logo but my old college ring.  I had a little hokiebird doll on display on my desk when I heard the news.  I strapped him to my backpack and carried him around campus for the entire day.  Every time I looked at it I wanted to cry. 

Please pray not just for those killed and injured, but for the entire Virginia Tech community of students, faculty, administrators and alumni.  I know I will.

God bless.

[pandy]

hey gang.  I'm safe and sound at Penn State.

So glad you're safe.

So incredibly sick over how much pain one person can cause so many people. May the families, friends, and loved ones of those who were lost find some answers and peace.