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noob engine rebuild/ DO NOT USE HIGH OCTANE FUEL!

Started by drkslayer, June 14, 2007, 01:16:56 PM

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drkslayer

so... I posted on here awhile ago... I was pissy and just let ole girl sit for awhile, then got a hair up my *** and decided to pull the motor apart and find out wtf happened...

well... I heard this nasty clanking after coming back from a ride... I thought for sure it was in the head...

but strapping it to the truck, and letting my buddy take a listen definatly brought the sound down, so I knew it was something to do with the crank...

now that I've got it apart, the first piston I took off, I noticed the problem...

the left c-rod came loose... so loose I can rock it back and forth... how lame...

the only thing I can think of was the 101 octane I put in it like 2 months ago... 3 tanks later and I have issues...

I wouldn't reccomend it... even tho it made her scream... it unfortunatly did damage...

any reccomendations now that I have it apart?

should I replace everything? or just the bearing/ have the crank turned... I just moved and money is tight, and would like to keep this as cheap as possible... anyone in the area that would mind making a new riding buddy in exchange for some guidence on the rebuild, and free beer?

here's  where I stand...

scratch

Keep going, you're still going to need to inspect the crank journal under that c-rod.
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

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good judgement trumps good skills every time.

makenzie71

yeah so tell me how too high an octane rating will damage your engine.  I'm sure you mentioned it, but I just can't find it.

spc

I just  cant see 101 octane hurtin the GS :dunno_white:  damn engine is just more durable than that.......Now stabilized jet fuel on the other hand :o

natedawg120

yeah, high octain didn't do that, it was just bad luck.
Bikeless in RVA

dgyver

Maybe if you used high octane fuel instead of oil....

Pretty much the only major cause of failure in the GS motor is lack of oil.

Might as well split the cases and check all the bearings.
Common sense in not very common.

makenzie71


drkslayer

I dunno... with only 11k... and I didn't have problems till I used the high octane stuff... and turns out both the c-rods have play... one worse than the other...

I mean... bad luck or not... usually there is a reason... oil, careless rebuild, whatever... and I can't really find one, cept for that...

Nikolas

Quote from: spcterry on June 14, 2007, 03:03:04 PM
I just  cant see 101 octane hurtin the GS :dunno_white:  damn engine is just more durable than that.......Now stabilized jet fuel on the other hand :o

Considering jet fuel is just diesel or kerosene, it could do some damage, and wouldn't be any fun to run.
1989 GS500E - Just registered and revived... more to come

spc

with the appropriate compression and timing  JP-x could be used in a diluted form and would produce insane numbers but reliability would be severely compromised.   in a stock setup it wouldn't ignite.....be like water in your gas :icon_confused:  you'd probably need to figure out something other than the stock spark plugs too..........hmmmmmmm ;)  I might have an idea for my totalled GS :icon_twisted:

FearedGS500

depends on what you  jet fuel you get .. you can get TTL100 and it is fine. you can run that in your car ... or in my case i use to run it in my dirtbike ........ it all depends on what you get ..

spc

I got a buddy who works in fuels at the AFB :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: so lets say theoretically military grade shaZam! :dunno_white:

rangerbrown

dude i run 130 at the track and 10k miles later i don't have any problems. that provably from you winding it out like a Buddha Loves You and thinking that the 101 oct fuel is going to keep it together.

don't blame it for your recklessness
nee down mother F***ers

Nikolas

Quote from: spcterry on June 14, 2007, 04:42:19 PM
I got a buddy who works in fuels at the AFB :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: so lets say theoretically military grade shaZam! :dunno_white:


jp-8 = kerosene
1989 GS500E - Just registered and revived... more to come

TragicImage

Quote from: Nikolas on June 14, 2007, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: spcterry on June 14, 2007, 04:42:19 PM
I got a buddy who works in fuels at the AFB :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: so lets say theoretically military grade shaZam! :dunno_white:


jp-8 = kerosene


pretty much... yea.
Impeach Pandy

2006 GS500F


Hipocracy.... becoming more acceptable with the more power you think you have.

makenzie71



on an interesting note, while trying to find my threadjacked gif i stumbled across this (which isn't work/children safe)

edit...nah i took it out cuz it was borderline pornography but it I nearly shaZam! when i saw it.

ben2go

In the US
100LL is standard aviation fuel for piston engine aircraft
Jet A is extremly high grade kerosene
JP-8 is a high grade diesel thats' had the sulfer removed

I was an aviation line service technician and pilot until I injured
myself.I pulled a muscle in my stomach and give myself a
hernia.Now I can't return to work because I lost My FAA
Airmens Medical Certificate.The doc says that my strength
has been compromised and I couldn't fight the controls of
an out of control aircraft long enough to recover the flight.
Sucks!I really miss the money.Sorry.Didn't mean to go into my
life story.
PICS are GONE never TO return.

spc

I've got 26 hours up :thumb:  It's a blast :icon_twisted:  I need to start booking hours again it's been a few months.......  I'm trying to hold off until my uncle gets his instructor rating :thumb:

ben2go

Quote from: spcterry on June 14, 2007, 08:59:49 PM
I've got 26 hours up :thumb:  It's a blast :icon_twisted:  I need to start booking hours again it's been a few months.......  I'm trying to hold off until my uncle gets his instructor rating :thumb:

Fly on my friend,fly on.Find and fly with a military pilot from nam era.I did.
Learned to recover from almost anything.I also learned to fly inverted in a
Cessna 152 without ripping the wings off.The tower didn't like that when
we done it over center field.They claim we were encouraging other pilots
to fly dangerously.  :laugh:
PICS are GONE never TO return.

rangerbrown

ACM and Line man here and i to need to work on my hours i am right at 30
nee down mother F***ers

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