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150/60/17 on a stock wheel???

Started by squirrel-22, November 11, 2007, 10:45:55 PM

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Jay_wolf

Certain brands of Tires Are Approved, but u wont be able to get right on the edge , as it will pinch
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

mach1

sportec M-1s by metzeler work fine, thats what I got dont get anything bigger than a 60 lower profile less pinch.
04Gs,fenderectomy,V&H Full exhaust,Vortex clip-ons.13t front sprocket.,Uni Pods,22.5/65/147.5,Katana rear shock,M-1 metzeler 150 rear tire,Yamaha R6 Tail-SOLD
79 Honda CM185t-In restoration mode with this bike.DEAD slammed 2003 Honda Shadow 600, matte black everything 18inch ape hangers

gsJack

Quote from: squirrel-22 on November 11, 2007, 10:45:55 PM
Will this work???

Some of the 150/70 tires are approved by the tire mfgs for fitment on our 3.5" wheel and some are not, but none of the 150/60 tires are approved for this fitment in the US by the tire makers.

However, many are using the 150/60 tires on the GS500 and EX500 aka Ninja 500 bikes on the standard 3.5 wheels and are happy with them.  Whether or not you can get over on the edge of the tire with this fitment means nothing to me as long as you can corner as fast as you want to and are capable of doing.  Concern with chicken strip size is a self image problem in my opinion.   :)
407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

Kasumi

^^^^

I agree everyone says chicken strips mean you don't lean as far as you can.... well a) you shouldn't be compteting to lean that far and b) leaning so far over doesn't make you any faster or better at cornering, some bikes just don't lean far enough to use up all the tyre.
Custom Kawasaki ZXR 400

TragicImage

Quote from: Jay_wolf on November 12, 2007, 01:16:16 AM
Certain brands of Tires Are Approved, but u wont be able to get right on the edge , as it will pinch


You wanna bet on that?

I'm running Conti Road Attacks (like Jack) and I'm getting to the edge easily with a consistent feel all the way there.
Impeach Pandy

2006 GS500F


Hipocracy.... becoming more acceptable with the more power you think you have.

Kurlon

EX500 racers up here in Maine are running 150s on their 3.5 x 17 rims on the track.  I'll have to dig to see what specific profile they're using...
1991 GS500E - LRRS/CCS Novice #771

gsJack

#7
The Bridgestone BT090 Pro tires are sold here by racing tire sites in the 140/70 and 150/60 sizes to fit the 3.5" wheels:

http://www.barebones.net/tires.htm

http://stickboyracing.com/090.html

They are both approved for fitment on 3.5" rims by Bridgestone Japan but the 140/70 is sized for a 3.5 and the 150/60 is sized for a 4.5" rim.

http://mc.bridgestone.co.jp/en/products/battlax/bt090.html

All the 150/60 major brand tires sold here on the regular tire sites are sized for a 4.0" rim and not approved for fitment on 3.5" rims.



407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

Jay_wolf

Ive managed to source a 4.5 inch rim , for my 150/70

I think the last thing i want is to pinch on a corner , and get a wiggle , im looking at the safety side of it  :thumb:
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

CndnMax

Wouldn't having a 150 and not using the sides of the tire be the same as having a 140 and using all of iit? whats the point of having the bigger tire if its not getting used?

kml.krk

Quote from: CndnMax on November 12, 2007, 08:37:56 PM
Wouldn't having a 150 and not using the sides of the tire be the same as having a 140 and using all of iit? whats the point of having the bigger tire if its not getting used?

I think it's mostly about the look of the tire and bike in general. I know that the looks doesn't matter that much, but don't you sometimes have a feeling that this narrow 130/70 stock tire looks ridiculous?? Cause I do. I'll say more. I don't like it. I know that it performs accurately to the bike's performance and it's weight, but since they added fairings in 2004 (to make GS500 look sportier) they could also have provided the bike with wider tires too - just to make it look better and sportier  ;)

Just my 2 cents
Yellow 2004: K&N Lunchbox, Leo Vince SBK, 2005 GSXR Turn Signals, 20/65/147.5, 15T front sprocket, Progressive Springs etc...

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gsJack

Quote from: CndnMax on November 12, 2007, 08:37:56 PM
Wouldn't having a 150 and not using the sides of the tire be the same as having a 140 and using all of iit? whats the point of having the bigger tire if its not getting used?

The 150/60 is the narrowest size available in major brand supersport radials and the 150/70 is the narrowest size available in sport touring radials except for the 140/80 AV46 and D205 tires and the 130/80 Z2.  So it's mostly the 150 wide tires that are available for our 3.5" wheels if we want to run radials.
407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

CndnMax

Quote from: gsJack on November 12, 2007, 10:05:14 PM
Quote from: CndnMax on November 12, 2007, 08:37:56 PM
Wouldn't having a 150 and not using the sides of the tire be the same as having a 140 and using all of iit? whats the point of having the bigger tire if its not getting used?

The 150/60 is the narrowest size available in major brand supersport radials and the 150/70 is the narrowest size available in sport touring radials except for the 140/80 AV46 and D205 tires and the 130/80 Z2.  So it's mostly the 150 wide tires that are available for our 3.5" wheels if we want to run radials.
Tire selection, gotcha  :thumb:

Garethbourne

I have a 140/80/17 0n the rear of my bike, and by looking at it, it looks like the rear caliper brace would come in to contact with the tyre(tire) if i go to a 150/. but hey, its a GS, not a GSXR,So why do we need so much rubber on te rear, lol
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desilva

#14
Quote from: kml.krk on November 12, 2007, 09:13:46 PM
don't you sometimes have a feeling that this narrow 130/70 stock tire looks ridiculous?? Cause I do. I'll say more. I don't like it.

I have to agree with that. I love the look of my GS from every angle...except from directly behind. Like a bird with a fat arse and skinny legs. Hmmm...<reconsiders> :laugh:
2007 GS500 K6 - completely stock in every way...until the warranty expires. ;-)

bubba zanetti

Quote from: desilva on November 14, 2007, 09:49:06 AM
I have to agree with that. I love the look of my GS from every angle...except from directly behind. Like a bird with a fat arse and skinny legs. Hmmm...<reconsiders> :laugh:

And whats wrong with that  :laugh:

Perfomance wise I don't mind 130/70 tyre on the back, I've only had the new tyre on for about two weeks and I've already got no chicken strips.  :laugh:
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Jay_wolf

Mines for looks as well as Handling , im not being funny , but i have £1500 Pounds worth of parts on my Gs , and to Accent the Undertray , nexxus , and r1 Led Taillight , a 150/160 , will be The icing on the cake  :thumb:
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

kml.krk

Quote from: Garethbourne on November 14, 2007, 03:38:39 AM
I have a 140/80/17 0n the rear of my bike, and by looking at it, it looks like the rear caliper brace would come in to contact with the tyre(tire) if i go to a 150/. but hey, its a GS, not a GSXR,So why do we need so much rubber on te rear, lol

Probably it would - that's why you have to bend the rod a little if you want to go with 150 - no biggie tho!
Yellow 2004: K&N Lunchbox, Leo Vince SBK, 2005 GSXR Turn Signals, 20/65/147.5, 15T front sprocket, Progressive Springs etc...

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