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need help with repairing wires

Started by Tang, April 03, 2008, 06:04:40 PM

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Tang

What is the best way to repair wires?

without buying a whole new wire harness!

i want to get my bike running asap! :mad:
1997 GS500E

ecpreston


Tang

i was thinkign about stripping them.

then tieing them together

then cable tape them individually?

i guess sodering is good?
1997 GS500E

beRto

Quote from: Tang on April 03, 2008, 07:36:41 PM
i was thinkign about stripping them.
then tieing them together
then cable tape them individually?

I don't think that is gonna cut it; electrical tape is not a long-term splicing solution. You need to buy some proper electrical connectors and attach those to each end of the splice. This will make sure the wires don't come apart with vibration.

GeeP

Go down to your local auto parts store and buy some of the proper sized crimp terminals and a crimping tool.  Shouldn't set you back more than about $15.

The connectors look like this:



and install with this:



The color of the connector denotes the size range, be sure to get the correct connector for the wires you plan to connect.
Every zero you add to the tolerance adds a zero to the price.

If the product "fails" will the product liability insurance pay for the "failure" until it turns 18?

Red '96
Black MK2 SV

Tang

Thanks!

You guys are a life saver!

i love this forum!
1997 GS500E

Kurlon

If you can, find a friend who's good with a soldering iron.  Solder in splices, and heat shrink them to keep moisture out.
1991 GS500E - LRRS/CCS Novice #771

ben2go

I use crimp connectors without the plastic cover and shrink wrap them to keep out moister.Just make sure the gas tank is removed and the carbs are covered,if you use a flame to shrink the tubing.
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Tang

I'll take pictures tomorrow i mean later on today lol its 1:31 AM lol of what i'm tryin to connect back together.

and heat shrinking is?

i'm still new with all this  :dunno_white:

1997 GS500E

ben2go

Quote from: Tang on April 03, 2008, 10:32:17 PM
I'll take pictures tomorrow i mean later on today lol its 1:31 AM lol of what i'm tryin to connect back together.

and heat shrinking is?

i'm still new with all this  :dunno_white:




Heat shrink tubing shrinks with heat from a small flame,ie cigerette lighter.I prefer to use a heat gun or hair drier that gets really hot.Don't worry about being new to mechanics or motorcycle.We all started some where and forums help and make it easier some times.

Here's the heat shrink I use.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102875&cp=&sr=1&origkw=heat+shrink&kw=heat+shrink&parentPage=search
Here's the crimp connectors I use.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103494&cp=2032058.2032231.2032283&pg=3&parentPage=family
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Tang

okay i have 4 wires that were cut off

do i crimp them all individually?

and after i do that

do i just slip the tube over them and then hold a flame under the tube till it starts melting to the wires?
1997 GS500E

beRto

Quote from: Tang on April 03, 2008, 11:10:05 PM
okay i have 4 wires that were cut off

do i crimp them all individually?

and after i do that

do i just slip the tube over them and then hold a flame under the tube till it starts melting to the wires?

You will need to crimp each wire individually. The heat-shrink tubing should go on before you make the crimp (otherwise it won't go on unless you cut it, which is not ideal): put the tubing on the wire and slip it away from the joint. Do the "shrinking" part after you make the splice.

In this case, I'd consider a piece of tubing for each individual splice and perhaps a larger piece holding them all together. This would depend on how susceptible they look to vibrations, moisture, etc.

sledge

Solder the joints, then use heat shrink sleeving then wrap in black insulation tape. Do it neatly and it will be an invisible repair with no chance of a poor connection or corrosion issues in the future.

ohgood

Quote from: sledge on April 04, 2008, 08:08:10 AM
Solder the joints, then use heat shrink sleeving then wrap in black insulation tape. Do it neatly and it will be an invisible repair with no chance of a poor connection or corrosion issues in the future.

I like to put vaseline over the solder joint, then put the heat shrink on, starting at either end with the heat. Makes a squishy bubble of gel if you do it right, then the middle, and it's pretty impervious to water/stuff.

:)

+1 on the solder vs connectors.


tt_four: "and believe me, BMW motorcycles are 50% metal, rubber and plastic, and 50% useless

GeeP

c'mon guys!  He's not splicing the power bus for the primary flight computer on a 777!

There are crimp connectors all over the GS500 from the factory.   ;)
Every zero you add to the tolerance adds a zero to the price.

If the product "fails" will the product liability insurance pay for the "failure" until it turns 18?

Red '96
Black MK2 SV

sledge

Quote from: GeeP on April 04, 2008, 08:36:21 AM
c'mon guys!  He's not splicing the power bus for the primary flight computer on a 777!

There are crimp connectors all over the GS500 from the factory.   ;)

hahaha....we are perfectionists mate  :thumb:

Tang

i think i'mma going with the crimp idea lol :-D i'll take a picture after i'm done today probably take me 4 hrs. haha  :laugh: since i'm such a noob.
1997 GS500E

GeeP

lol Sledge.   :icon_mrgreen:

Tang, after making the connection, be sure to test it by pulling on each end gently.  If it doesn't come apart you're golden.  Be sure to use a properly sized connector and you shouldn't have any problems.   :thumb:
Every zero you add to the tolerance adds a zero to the price.

If the product "fails" will the product liability insurance pay for the "failure" until it turns 18?

Red '96
Black MK2 SV

Tang

awesome yeah i'll be sure to do that after i get out of school lol

on the sizing how do i go about that?
1997 GS500E

GeeP

The package of terminals will give the wire sizes the terminals are designed for.

Color coding is also useful:

(Off the top of my head)

Red: 22-16

Blue 14-10

Yellow: 10-8

The stripping portion of the tool will have the wire gauges stamped next to the correct stripping hole.  Use them as a guide to determine the correct connector.  For most wires on the GS, red connectors will do the job.
Every zero you add to the tolerance adds a zero to the price.

If the product "fails" will the product liability insurance pay for the "failure" until it turns 18?

Red '96
Black MK2 SV

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