2006 gsx-r front end ?

[ohgood]

will it fit onto my saggy gs without tons of special stuff being machined ? is there a tutorial i missed ?

k tanx

[The Buddha]

I have a Katana FE that I ahve done all the machining on for a straight no spacer fit. It even has a guage mount and a way to fit the GS headlight.

I can send you pics, but we can accomplish this with very minimal UPS'ing too.

Asking $450 for all + shipping. New bearings etc. BTW there is only like 8-9 parts I will have to send you ... headlight ear carriers, fork legs, brake system, top + bottom triple.
Makes for very cheap shipping. I'd like the GS triple and headlight ears back after you swap over, those are the only parts of the GS I need to convert another Kat one.

BTW a 06 GSXR even needs bearings swapped out as well as stems modded and what ever ... no idea.
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[dgyver]

will it fit onto my saggy gs without tons of special stuff being machined ? is there a tutorial i missed ?

k tanx

The stem would either need to be swapped (if the steel GS stem will fit properly in the aluminum GSXR clamp) or have the GSXR stem turned shorter to fit the GS steering head. The steering stop would need to be modified. I have a 99 GSXR750 f/e and my stop is about 1/2" wide. If this is going on the street, you will need to address the lack of a speedo sensor on the GSXR wheel. I am using a hall effect magnetic sensor and a SV650S gages. This speedo mod is on SVRider.com.

[The Buddha]

D ... from eyeball 06 GSXR only seen it 1 time many moons ago ... the lower bearing is the same on the GSXR, top bearing is huge (I believe same as the lower or just ~1mm smaller) ... its also round ball and not needle, and the stem is very much longer.
I dont think you can swap the stem its bottom triple is very very beefy, it will leave the GS stem too short, and turning the top stem from 30 mm (nearly certain its 30mm) to 25 mm - OK we can disagree on that.
Anyway ... I'd attempt any crazy ass swap ... and I know a good few others that will too ... you included. but someone who asks this question, is not going to like your answer (or mine for that matter) Anyway ... that is the observations from 1 person who is crazy enough to try anything.
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[dgyver]

I just looked at several on ebay. The GSXR stem does not look much different than the ones I had turned.
What type of bearings are on the GSXR does not matter, just the ID. I used GS bearings on my swap.
I look a lot of stuff up in the the parts fiches. They sometimes have the bearing sizes. One of the ways I figured the 97+ Kat wheel might work.

[ohgood]

cool, thanks you two, turns out the seller wanted $600+ for the front end anyway. no dice.

i'll just wait till i come across a katana being parted, rip the carbs, wheels, suspension and front end off, ebay the rest.

/me waits and lurks on the craigslist RSS once again

[The Buddha]

Anyway ... Like I said ... $450 for a straight drop in Katana FE complete with Headlight ears and GS guage accepting mods to the top triple.

I also may be doing a conversion service ... Something like - you send, I modify, and send back ... as always, no spacers and no guess work and multiple fitting and stuff not fitting.

Best of all, its really small stuff to be shipped back and forth, costs under $10 to ship 1 way and you dont need to swap bearings (which cost a good $50 or so themselves). I also hope for a $50 target $$ for the stem modification and a $100 for a top triple mod with a GS top triple as core charge.

Anyway watch GStwin.com for this and other exciting offers ... like WTF ... where did that come from ...
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[bucks1605]

What kind of mod did you do to allow the use of gs gauges? I'm hoping to reuse my gauges on my kat f/e and I'm looking for some ideas. The f/e is off a '92 750, and the top triple looks different than some other's I've seen.

Like this one, courtesy of darb



Mine doesn't look like that, it has the clip-ons mounted to the top. But you can't remove them, you what I'm talking about?

[dgyver]

The above pic is of a 600.

[bucks1605]

The above pic is of a 600.

Oh, well that makes sense.

Here's what my top triple looks like.



The gs gauges will not sit flush with that, I don't think it would look very good.

[The Buddha]

Oh yea 750 Kat ... not easy at all. The way I did it it will be leaving your ignition switch in a 3 inch hole ... or your dash will be 2 inches below where it should be ... it wont work on anything but a 600 top plate. I chopped the guage grommet ears off the GS triple and got them welded on the Kat triple. Get it right and the thing looks like it was made at the factory that way.
In fact my whole mod will only work on a 600 FE.
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[bucks1605]

Could I put a 600 top plate on a 750 triple?

I'm thinking it's either that, or find some other gauges, which I have no idea where to start looking. Or how expensive that would be.

[The Buddha]

I seriously have to look at a 750's stem ... but my guess is that its ~2 inches longer ... as opposed to the 600 which is ~3/4 longer. Send me your Lower triple which should ahve the stem in it obviously and I'll mod the stem and make it all work. That $50 may or may not be doable, but it cant be much more ... I believe.
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[bucks1605]

I seriously have to look at a 750's stem ... but my guess is that its ~2 inches longer ... as opposed to the 600 which is ~3/4 longer. Send me your Lower triple which should ahve the stem in it obviously and I'll mod the stem and make it all work. That $50 may or may not be doable, but it cant be much more ... I believe.
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I sent my gs stem to dgyver so he could swap it over into the kat lower triple.

[The Buddha]

I dunno how he is going to do it really ... but ... this is what I ahve found.
The katana 600 lower triple is thick, much thicker than the GS triple. So moving the GS triple into the katana triple will leave it too short. The way we did the 600 FE conversion was, to grind out the stem on the bottom and push it into the lower triple and spread it and weld it. We have not touched the GS lower triple at all in 3 conversions.

I would take your 750 stem and machine it to fit a 600 top triple. That is where the $50 is going ... to a machinist I enlisted ... 
I measure and mark with the GS and then machine it ... machine it till it cries ...
You really dont want to grind up the lower triple, and you certainly dont want the stem sitting deeper in the lower triple, the stem had to be sticking out of the bottom of the lower triple as you weld it. Then you can shape and grind it. BTW Werase, spread the part of the stem that was sticking under the lower triple, it didn't even need welding, it wasn't going anywhere.
Just about the only way to get it all to fit and look and work right, as in ... no spacers anywhere, no funky weird things holding up this or that ... nothing ... machine the stem, mill the kat 6 upper triple, weld ears to the upper triple and slap it back.
Kat 6 stem is too long, but you rather that than too short. Kat 750 is even longer and that is just more to slice off IMHO. Just measure and mill and cut. Nothing to it. Yea. machine and thread ... oh yea ...
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[bucks1605]

I dunno how he is going to do it really ... but ... this is what I ahve found.
The katana 600 lower triple is thick, much thicker than the GS triple. So moving the GS triple into the katana triple will leave it too short. The way we did the 600 FE conversion was, to grind out the stem on the bottom and push it into the lower triple and spread it and weld it. We have not touched the GS lower triple at all in 3 conversions.
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He's pressing the gs stem into the kat lower triple and welding it in.

[Jay_wolf]

I keep ppl saying about the Katanas Carbs , what do u have to modify to use them ?

[The Buddha]

I dunno how he is going to do it really ... but ... this is what I ahve found.
The katana 600 lower triple is thick, much thicker than the GS triple. So moving the GS triple into the katana triple will leave it too short. The way we did the 600 FE conversion was, to grind out the stem on the bottom and push it into the lower triple and spread it and weld it. We have not touched the GS lower triple at all in 3 conversions.
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He's pressing the gs stem into the kat lower triple and welding it in.

Your GS stem has to be ground out (unless you have a removable one) that means it will be too short to even be in the GS lower triple. Then the Kat lower triple will be even thicker ... it will be much too short. Honestly, I'd grind out the katana stem, press that deeper into the lower triple and weld it. That is what we did on 3 bikes at werase's place.
However finally the top triple off the Kat 6 ... you'd still need to get it working. Right ??
Essentially it all needs to be fitted to each other. I only have Kat 600 expertise. 750 ... needs more measuring and cutting.
Anyway D is going to do you right, you're good.
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[bucks1605]

Anyway D is going to do you right, you're good.
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I know that for sure. I may have mistaken what he was doing exactly, but I know he's swapping the stems.

[The Buddha]

I keep ppl saying about the Katanas Carbs , what do u have to modify to use them ?

Kat carbs ... lets see, take 2 of them off the rack and put them on the GS rack ... and oh yea ... you dont gain anything they are all 33mm.
I use kat carbs for parts sources for the GS.
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