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1000cc GS500 Giggity Giggity Goo. Oh Yea!

Started by ben2go, June 08, 2008, 03:09:32 PM

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Jay_wolf

Nick Named Two Smoke .. Because there Smoky , but powerful... I have a 70cc Two Stroke , And I weigh 13.5 stone  ( 189 pounds ) naked ..  :thumb:

so with a helmet and Jacket.. 200 pounds? ... The Bike weights  15 stone ( 210 pounds) .. and im about as aerodymic as a Fiat Multipla ... Yet  i can Reach Speeds of 60 mph...
Ive seen 71 on a Steep Hill . and its a Electric Speedometer...

So 70cc's is Pulling 400 pounds to 60 mph.....  Two Strokes Rock
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

KasbeKZ

even for daily driving? so you would have to get the tank empty every time then add oil every time you pump gas? and i've always heard that there is much more maintenance

Jay_wolf

#22
I use it every day for work , and it handles going 50 mph+ for miles and miles...

Its about 70+ MPG .. i think stock its close to 100 if its Restricted at 30 and is only 50cc

I have a 70cc Carb , Rejet ,Racing Exhaust , Heavy Rollers ,Heavyer Clutch Plates.. Its a Twist and Go...Also have 140 Tyres on the front and Rear,Pirrelli Evo 22's i can lean so low on it

Mine has a Oil Pump , so its Not mixing the gas and oil ..   also liquid cooled ..  Auto Choke.. Its better than the bus  :thumb:

Edit to Add Maintenance Info:

Doesnt have more than the Gs i wouldnt Say .. being a two stroke it Drinks oil , i run it on Full Syn Oil at 10 Pounds A Bottle .. which Lasts 300-400 Miles u dont have to check the oil because u no after 250 miles u no ur going to have to add some more soon,

Otherwise , its Fine
I check the Spark plug often , 
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

KasbeKZ

ten pounds? lol i guess that's the same as $4-5. so this engine they are talking about, does it have an oil pump? that is awesome. i've actually never heard of a two stroke with circulating oil and un mixed gas

Jay_wolf

2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

ben2go

Quote from: cd on June 08, 2008, 06:06:39 PM
they cost a fortune, and the word in the bandit community is they dont hold up like other custom bandit motors

Not a Bandit motor we're talking about.It's a CR500 2 stroke conversion.
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ben2go

Quote from: KasbeKZ on June 08, 2008, 06:55:45 PM
even for daily driving? so you would have to get the tank empty every time then add oil every time you pump gas? and i've always heard that there is much more maintenance

I would add measured amounts of oil to match the fuel added to the tank.Also carry extra plugs with the tool kit.That's the way I did my yamaha.When I was growing up there wasn't many houses in my area.We could hit the trails and go 50 to 60 miles to Chimney Rock,NC,only crossing a few roads here and there.Good times.All the trails were closed because of land preservation.Now it's all housing developments.Most of the houses are so close together you can barely get a small lawn mower between them.That's why I gave up on dirt bikes and atv's.    :cry:
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bucks1605

Quote from: ben2go on June 08, 2008, 09:24:51 PM
Quote from: KasbeKZ on June 08, 2008, 06:55:45 PM
even for daily driving? so you would have to get the tank empty every time then add oil every time you pump gas? and i've always heard that there is much more maintenance

I would add measured amounts of oil to match the fuel added to the tank.Also carry extra plugs with the tool kit.That's the way I did my yamaha.When I was growing up there wasn't many houses in my area.We could hit the trails and go 50 to 60 miles to Chimney Rock,NC,only crossing a few roads here and there.Good times.All the trails were closed because of land preservation.Now it's all housing developments.Most of the houses are so close together you can barely get a small lawn mower between them.That's why I gave up on dirt bikes and atv's.    :cry:

I'm about to give up on 'em too, we just never get to ride any more.
SV1000K3 Bought 03/17/09
1996 GS500E Sold 03/03/09

spc

huh? what? were you guys talking?  I was drooling over the possibility of a 210hp GS, jesus that could scare the living hell outta yourself and any small jets in the area

yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: Jay_wolf on June 08, 2008, 06:43:13 PM
Its for a Cr500 Two Smoke.. but it fits in the Gs frame , and theyve made it 1000cc ,
so skinny ass cylinder walls and frequent reringing?
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yamahonkawazuki

Jan 14 2010 0310 I miss you mom
Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
".
A proud Mormon
"if you come in with the bottom of your cast black,
neither one of us will be happy"- Alan Silverman MD

ohgood

mmm

so, you take the fuel economy, reliability (ok, that one is debatable), and ease of maintenance the gs is famous for, and toss it ...

for an insane 1000cc two smoke ? 1000cc's !?

c'mon, that's just nutty. you'd either be bogging and fowling plugs or burning the rear tire/chain like a mad man. not much in between.

i mean, knock yourself out, but i'm staying far away from this one :)


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Jay_wolf

But being as Ben Has 3 Gs's .. Maybe even 4?

Having a Busa Raper in the garage ...... I mean , people say why waste money on a little gs , where as it would rip a Busa in half? thats not a race.. Imagine making a Gs500F .. The Sleeper.... I Love it  :thumb:
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

sledge

Something is jumping straight out at me regarding this..........Have you considered the fact those engines are intended for off road use and like most dirt-bikes will probably use a self-generating CDI system that gives barely enough power to provide a spark, ok on a track because thats all thats needed. It might have a small lighting coil in the generator but that will only provide a few watts and will of course be lost when the engine stops. In stock form its not going to be compatable with the GS electrical system, it wont support a battery and charging system nor will it provide anywhere near enough power for the lights etc required on a road-bike.  If you are intending to make this road legal you need to give some serious thought to this issue.

Jay_wolf

what if... u had the Igition Set up with teh CR bits . yet , had a Switch with a completly different Loom , that is Flicked out with a switch on the bike .. so u can turn the lights on . And have all the indicators , break lights all with this Different loom . . i think if i worded it better u would get my drift.. and i didnt of that at first Sledge
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

bucks1605

Someone has already put a cr500 engine in a gs, I just can't remember if it was a track bike, or if it was street legal. i remember it was for sale on cl a few months ago.
SV1000K3 Bought 03/17/09
1996 GS500E Sold 03/03/09

Fry

Quote from: KasbeKZ on June 08, 2008, 06:55:45 PM
even for daily driving? so you would have to get the tank empty every time then add oil every time you pump gas? and i've always heard that there is much more maintenance

I got so insensed reading that I felt compelled to comment before reading anymore posts.

2 strokes do not, I repeat do not require more maintianence than a 4 stroke, a lot less actually. Proce out a complete top end build on a CR250 and then a CRF 250f fourstroke, worlds apart in price and complexity.

2 stroke, no adjusting valves, add oil and go.

the motorcycle manafactures and the eco nazis who ruin this world over stupid foliage and obscure 5 legged creatures have created the death blow and propoganda about 2 strokes.
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scottpA_GS


OK.. this thread is starting to invent its own things as we go alon...

Where does it say this motor fits the GS ???  I saw nothing to indicate that  :dunno_white:


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Jay_wolf

There was a Gs on CraigsList , with a CR500 engine in .. so it fits
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

sledge

Quote from: Jay_wolf on June 09, 2008, 05:53:03 AM
what if... u had the Igition Set up with teh CR bits . yet , had a Switch with a completly different Loom , that is Flicked out with a switch on the bike .. so u can turn the lights on . And have all the indicators , break lights all with this Different loom . . i think if i worded it better u would get my drift.. and i didnt of that at first Sledge

Nice idea Jay, I understand what you are suggesting but where would the power for the lights come from? The stock CR system is not big (for want of a better term) enough to provide enough power for any lights or charge a battery. You could power the lights from a battery but it wouldnt be charged by the bike and when it went flat the lights would go dim :dunno_white:

My guess is that someone somewhere will sell a kit of parts that fit to the CR that will modify
and uprate the electrical system and allow it to provide power for charging and lighting but any kit will be designed for one engine and a single ignition system, not two joined together! I am sure there is a way around it but finding a reliable solution wont be easy.

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