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Help please, engine knock/tick --- new to gs world

Started by lee, July 16, 2008, 10:37:04 PM

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lee

I put it back together without valve adj and it doesnt tic.  Sounds great! thanks everyone!! Off to go riding!!!
05 GS500F---15 tooth front sprocket/41 Rear---Removed decals and mudflap crap

The Buddha

Yes GSJack - I totally agree, my valves may have been running hotter, but my jetting was richer and prolly having oil seeping in helped. Either case, good points.
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gaspy

Quote from: gsJack on July 17, 2008, 07:20:09 AM
A noisy tappet is a high frequency light tapping or ticking type noise while the "camshaft walking" noise is a low frequency deep thud type noise heard only at idle on a warm engine and goes away when the engine is speeded up to a fast idle and is harmless.

Hi Everyone,

I just got word from a mechanic helping me with a (not) warped disc that I ALSO might have a problem with my cam shaft or connecting rod (I know nothing about this, I probably effed up the guessed diagnosis). Apparently the ticking noise gsjack described may be the noise my bike is making, more and more these days. The mechanic/dealer says that my  2005 model with 4600 miles is looking at LEAST $500/5 hours to take the engine out and apart to determine what is wrong. Are they ripping me off? :mad:

I'm P'ed off. I bought the bike used and I think the noise may have been there when I bought it, but being the ignorant ape that I am I went ahead with the purchase because it rode well. i appreciate any advice you guys can give me. I'm just a young, underpaid, newb motorcyclist very frustrated with the stealership.

-G
2005 black/red gs500n

beRto

Quote from: gaspy on July 31, 2008, 10:59:18 AM
Quote from: gsJack on July 17, 2008, 07:20:09 AM
A noisy tappet is a high frequency light tapping or ticking type noise while the "camshaft walking" noise is a low frequency deep thud type noise heard only at idle on a warm engine and goes away when the engine is speeded up to a fast idle and is harmless.

Hi Everyone,

Apparently the ticking noise gsjack described may be the noise my bike is making, more and more these days. The mechanic/dealer says that my  2005 model with 4600 miles is looking at LEAST $500/5 hours to take the engine out and apart to determine what is wrong. Are they ripping me off? :mad:

gsJack desribed two noises:

  • high frequency light tapping or ticking = noisy tappet
  • low frequency deep thud type noise (at idle, on warm engine) = camshaft walking

Which one does your bike sound like?

Quote
I'm P'ed off. I bought the bike used and I think the noise may have been there when I bought it, but being the ignorant ape that I am I went ahead with the purchase because it rode well. i appreciate any advice you guys can give me. I'm just a young, underpaid, newb motorcyclist very frustrated with the stealership.

Either way, don't be too worried. As described, the first noise is a loose tappet; this can be fixed by a valve clearance check and shim replacement (you can do this yourself in a couple of hours - there is lots of info on the forum, including a HOW TO video made by Kerry).

The second noise (camshaft play) is harmless. You can also fix this yourself... do nothing!

:)

gaspy

Quote from: beRto on July 31, 2008, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: gaspy on July 31, 2008, 10:59:18 AM
Quote from: gsJack on July 17, 2008, 07:20:09 AM
A noisy tappet is a high frequency light tapping or ticking type noise while the "camshaft walking" noise is a low frequency deep thud type noise heard only at idle on a warm engine and goes away when the engine is speeded up to a fast idle and is harmless.

Hi Everyone,

Apparently the ticking noise gsjack described may be the noise my bike is making, more and more these days. The mechanic/dealer says that my  2005 model with 4600 miles is looking at LEAST $500/5 hours to take the engine out and apart to determine what is wrong. Are they ripping me off? :mad:

gsJack desribed two noises:

  • high frequency light tapping or ticking = noisy tappet
  • low frequency deep thud type noise (at idle, on warm engine) = camshaft walking

Which one does your bike sound like?

Quote
I'm P'ed off. I bought the bike used and I think the noise may have been there when I bought it, but being the ignorant ape that I am I went ahead with the purchase because it rode well. i appreciate any advice you guys can give me. I'm just a young, underpaid, newb motorcyclist very frustrated with the stealership.

Either way, don't be too worried. As described, the first noise is a loose tappet; this can be fixed by a valve clearance check and shim replacement (you can do this yourself in a couple of hours - there is lots of info on the forum, including a HOW TO video made by Kerry).

The second noise (camshaft play) is harmless. You can also fix this yourself... do nothing!

:)

Thanks for the reply, beRto. Sorry all, not sure if this was a thread jack?

Anyways, I think I'm gonna go to the shop with my camera and record the engine noise. I'm at work right now and can't describe it! I think it's the loose tappet noise, and honestly I'm not sure if it does or doesn't make the second, camshaft-play noise. I'll keep you posted this evening, thanks!

-G
2005 black/red gs500n

gaspy

beRto or others, is there any way to determine from a video where the noise might be coming from? Here's a link to a new thread (sorry for the thread jack), with youtube video links: http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=43304.0.
2005 black/red gs500n

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