What's the difference between a harley rider and a Hoover Vacuum?

[yamahonkawazuki]

is that a panhead? or..., me likey, and DAMN ed where you been hiding. man i miss my sportie. i had a supercharger ready to go on, and parts to convert from 883 to 1340, and a few otehr things, but hit HARD financial times, so had to let her go   but im gs'in again nowaitaminute, thats an ironhead sportie?

[Ed_in_Az]

The other picture is custom Ironhead Sportster.


Yama, I've been riding  my 2005 883 XL (Sportster) turned into a 1200 with High Comp Wiseco pistons and .497 cams.

I remember you had to sell your Sportster. I'm glad you're back aboard a GS anyway.

At my age I appreciate a sit down ride rather than leaning over the tank holding myself up by my wrists(at least until reaching "float"' speed).

[cafeboy]

The other picture is custom Ironhead Sportster.

The blue one is my old 82 Iron head Sportster with a little work done to it. I called it my 82 XLCR. 
Man I miss that bike. 

[bettingpython]

well you get better wear on an hd versus some "imported bikes" cept the boxer style engine, aka bmw and honda goldwaing ( iwht proper care and attention. but even with that there is still uninformed bias, if it were up to me, id rather be riding my sportster, but economics decided otehrwise

What are you yama a crackhead? Seriously?

I have almost 20k on my bike right now, a few track days and a little bit of commuting, other than idling at lights my motor usually doesn't see the under side of 6500 k or basicallly anything less than the upper 1/3rd of it's RPM band. Find me a HD that stays pinned that far in the rev band constatntly that doesn't grenade. Yeah yeah yeah different bikes different styles. Hell I know of people with old school 900rr's that have 70 to 125k on the clocks with nothing more than valve service done.

Air cooled pushrod motors are shaZam!, the only thing decent HD has done in the past 40 years was the V-rod. Even Erik Buell was tired of fighting crap motors, thus the switch to the rotax mill. And that only because HD bought rotax in an effort to increase it's inroads in the european market.

I like lots of people but having owned and ridden a bunch of bikes in my lifetime don't try snowballing me.

[yamahonkawazuki]

20k is THAT all? shaZam! 20k on a properly maintained hd is jsut breaking it in. ive got an uncle in peoria az who has an '82 low rider, has 179k on the engine, doesnt smoke AT ALL. and has only started to leak. for those in the area, tends to blow their harleys are crap thory/bash out of the water as you said, comparing apples to oranges, 600rr's wrong compo, try somethign al lil more closer, there are many choices. the rr has a different power band. the pushrod engine does not need to rev that high. whereas the otehrs do. if you want to bash, at least make some sense, mmmkay lol comparing 600rr to hd 

[jserio]

my dad can beat up your dad......     

[yamahonkawazuki]

my dad can beat up your dad......     

I love YOU feeling bette, she was a bit... 

[jserio]

            

[yamahonkawazuki]

 

[Ed_in_Az]

What are you yama a crackhead? Seriously?

I have almost 20k on my bike right now, a few track days and a little bit of commuting, other than idling at lights my motor usually doesn't see the under side of 6500 k or basicallly anything less than the upper 1/3rd of it's RPM band. Find me a HD that stays pinned that far in the rev band constatntly that doesn't grenade. Yeah yeah yeah different bikes different styles. Hell I know of people with old school 900rr's that have 70 to 125k on the clocks with nothing more than valve service done.

Air cooled pushrod motors are shaZam!, the only thing decent HD has done in the past 40 years was the V-rod. Even Erik Buell was tired of fighting crap motors, thus the switch to the rotax mill. And that only because HD bought rotax in an effort to increase it's inroads in the european market.

I like lots of people but having owned and ridden a bunch of bikes in my lifetime don't try snowballing me.

I left the rev limiter alone on my HD, at 6,000rpms. The STOCK valve train is good for 7,000rpms so yeah I COULD run @ 5,999rpms all day long and it won't grenade. This thing makes music between 5k and 6k. It's a fat pistoned internal combustion engine, not a sewing machine. If you like a shrill scream then pay some soprano opera singer to scream in your ear. I'll pass.

You may have owned a bunch of bikes, but obviously NOT a Sportster.

[yamahonkawazuki]

see, why build an engine to hit high revs, if there is not need to do so. and show me a police bike with enough balls to pull a car, which AINT an HD

[yamahonkawazuki]

A Suzuki rider is riding down a deserted stretch of highway when he notices a sign out of the comer of his eye..It reads:

SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS
HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION 10 MILES

He thinks it was a figment of his imagination and rides on without a second thought...Soon he sees another sign, which says:

SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS
HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION 5 MILES
GAS STOP 5 MILES

Suddenly, he realizes that these signs are for real...Then he rides past a third sign saying:

SISTERS OF ST.FRANCIS
HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION NEXT RIGHT

His instinct gets the best of him and he pulls into the drive....On the far side of the parking lot is a stone building with a small sign next to the door reading:

SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS

He locks his bike, climbs the steps and rings the bell....The door is answered by a nun in a long black habit who asks, "What may we do for you, my son?"....

He answers, "I saw your signs along the highway, and was interested in possibly doing business."....

"Very well, my son.  Please follow me," ....

He is led through many winding passages and is soon quite disoriented....The nun stops at a closed door and tells the man, "Please knock on this door"....

He does as he is told and another nun in a long habit, holding a tin cup answers the door.....This nun instructs, "Please place $100 in the cup, then go through the large wooden door at the end of this hallway"....

He gets $100 out of his wallet and places it in the second nuns cup...He trots eagerly down the hall and slips through the door, pulling it shut behind him.....As the door locks behind him, he finds himself back in the parking lot, facing another small sign:

GO IN PEACE.
YOU HAVE JUST BEEN SCREWED
BY THE SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS.
SERVES YOU RIGHT, YOU SINNER.
THE NEXT GAS STOP IS 10 MILES
THE OTHER WAY.

[bettingpython]

20k is THAT all? shaZam! 20k on a properly maintained hd is jsut breaking it in. ive got an uncle in peoria az who has an '82 low rider, has 179k on the engine, doesnt smoke AT ALL. and has only started to leak. for those in the area, tends to blow their harleys are crap thory/bash out of the water as you said, comparing apples to oranges, 600rr's wrong compo, try somethign al lil more closer, there are many choices. the rr has a different power band. the pushrod engine does not need to rev that high. whereas the otehrs do. if you want to bash, at least make some sense, mmmkay lol comparing 600rr to hd 

You numnutted liberal I don't have a 600rr, my wife has an f4i I have the 954. And you can't compare anything to HD because no one else is dumb enough to use antiquated technology  designed 100 years ago in an air cooled motor. Your buddies harley is obviously the exception not the rule. Whatever person thought putting the rear cyclinder behind the front cylinder and then cooling it with the hot air blast from the front was a true genius. Oh wait yeah they do all sotrtsa shaZam! to avoid that problem now like ducts and fans it only took em 80 years to figure out why the exhaust valve in the rear cylinder kept burning out. Oh I remember when they told the american public they fixed there vibration problems with the evolution motors. The rubber mounted it Instead of the fron fender jumping up and down the motor bounced around in the frame.

Yes I had a sporster for a short period of time and I thought it was the biggest piece of crap I ever rode. I promptly got  VFR750.

Hell they are so efffin image driven that fuel injection is just now going on them because they can't meet EPA regs with a carb finally. When your sportie can follow me at the track lemme know, I'm not fast but I saw a fast guy on a sportie at a track day and he about killed himself running laps 15 seconds over my time and I am a slow ass old man.

As for you ed this is between yama and i so butt out.

I'll say it again the only thing harley has ever built that was worth a shaZam! is the V-rod, hell if they hadn't paid and gotten the porsche engineers involved that one woulda failed too.

I'll never own another poser POS like that ever again. I don't need affirmation that I am a total prick. Look at your bikes all back of the bus I am good to 7 grand spend all day at 5999rpm. You'd piss yourself in the upper 20% of my power band between 8500 and 115000 rpm where front wheel heads for the moon in you're a hamfisted hack.

Yeah my bike is horribly low mileage I don't get to ride enough anymore.

[frankieG]

cabbage

[grayghost]

just for the record, i have owned 3 harleys over the years, including 2 FLH's.
and when i did own them, if you didn't wrench, you didn't ride.
my main source of amusement in the current harley "phase" are the folks that ride harleys because of the "life style" or fashion statement- i enjoyed all of my harleys, but understood that there were more practical rides out there then, as now.
as far as the comment that "if they are so sub-par...etc, etc," remember this is America. As a "general public"
we not only elected george w. bush, we RE-elected him. We made britney spears a STAR?!?? We think mcdonald's
makes a fine hamburger, and so on, and so on. Success for mediocrity in america (although not guaranteed) is not that tough to imagine- but "even if the toilet's gold, it is not treaure which it holds."

[Roadstergal]

Ride what you like, but bashing an entire brand due to your ignorance about it is just stupid.
Try getting an education and race a Sportster, VRod, or Buell.

What makes you think a: I'm ignorant of the marque, b: haven't ridden any, and c: haven't shared a track with any?   

[jserio]

                               

[yamahonkawazuki]

20k is THAT all? shaZam! 20k on a properly maintained hd is jsut breaking it in. ive got an uncle in peoria az who has an '82 low rider, has 179k on the engine, doesnt smoke AT ALL. and has only started to leak. for those in the area, tends to blow their harleys are crap thory/bash out of the water as you said, comparing apples to oranges, 600rr's wrong compo, try somethign al lil more closer, there are many choices. the rr has a different power band. the pushrod engine does not need to rev that high. whereas the otehrs do. if you want to bash, at least make some sense, mmmkay lol comparing 600rr to hd 

You numnutted liberal I don't have a 600rr, my wife has an f4i I have the 954. And you can't compare anything to HD because no one else is dumb enough to use antiquated technology  designed 100 years ago in an air cooled motor. Your buddies harley is obviously the exception not the rule. Whatever person thought putting the rear cyclinder behind the front cylinder and then cooling it with the hot air blast from the front was a true genius. Oh wait yeah they do all sotrtsa shaZam! to avoid that problem now like ducts and fans it only took em 80 years to figure out why the exhaust valve in the rear cylinder kept burning out. Oh I remember when they told the american public they fixed there vibration problems with the evolution motors. The rubber mounted it Instead of the fron fender jumping up and down the motor bounced around in the frame.

Yes I had a sporster for a short period of time and I thought it was the biggest piece of crap I ever rode. I promptly got  VFR750.

Hell they are so efffin image driven that fuel injection is just now going on them because they can't meet EPA regs with a carb finally. When your sportie can follow me at the track lemme know, I'm not fast but I saw a fast guy on a sportie at a track day and he about killed himself running laps 15 seconds over my time and I am a slow ass old man.

As for you ed this is between yama and i so butt out.

I'll say it again the only thing harley has ever built that was worth a shaZam! is the V-rod, hell if they hadn't paid and gotten the porsche engineers involved that one woulda failed too.

I'll never own another poser POS like that ever again. I don't need affirmation that I am a total prick. Look at your bikes all back of the bus I am good to 7 grand spend all day at 5999rpm. You'd piss yourself in the upper 20% of my power band between 8500 and 115000 rpm where front wheel heads for the moon in you're a hamfisted hack.

Yeah my bike is horribly low mileage I don't get to ride enough anymore.

< i am not a liberal so i wont resort to name calling,. lets see some evidence that this is the case. lets see some proof that harleys are crap,.. ill await your reply

[bettingpython]

Yama have you figured out I am just bashing to get your goat?

I could actually care less about Harley Riders choice of bikes. At least they're riding.

My dislike of Harley is driven by the fact's stated by me originally, for 95% of their customers it's all about badass image. The company would have died in the mid-80's if they hadn't whined and cried till they got a 10 fold tarrif increase slapped on imported bikes for 5 years. It's kinda like the wall street bail out, bad business is bad business, government shouldn't prop up failing businesses.

And I really do like the V-rod, that's the HD I would own.

[yamahonkawazuki]

Yama have you figured out I am just bashing to get your goat?

I could actually care less about Harley Riders choice of bikes. At least they're riding.

My dislike of Harley is driven by the fact's stated by me originally, for 95% of their customers it's all about badass image. The company would have died in the mid-80's if they hadn't whined and cried till they got a 10 fold tarrif increase slapped on imported bikes for 5 years. It's kinda like the wall street bail out, bad business is bad business, government shouldn't prop up failing businesses.

And I really do like the V-rod, that's the HD I would own.

i know i gotta quit takin this shaZam! literally. in the 80's it was AMF which almost killed HD, that was a rough time. last of shovel, first of evo, and shady unions not giving a f%$k. nowits better., but bias (* from both sides of fence still remain. id ride anyhtring  including Jserios mom