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Lunchbox, jets and exhaust upgrade

Started by TheDrunknmonky, January 06, 2009, 07:11:09 PM

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TheDrunknmonky

I think this should be an easy one, but I want the experts opinions anyway..  If I change any one of these things, do the other 2 need to be done also?  What will happen, for instance, if I upgrade to a lunchbox and don't re-jet, or if i re-jet, but don't change intake, etc?  Based on what I'm finding, I'm thinking that these things have to be done together and that doing one by itself would hinder performance more than help it.  Input appreciated.  Thanks peeps!
06 GS500F
14t Front Sprocket
Flush Mount LED signals
Kat 600 Rear Shock
20/65/147.5 rejet
D&D exhaust
K&N Lunchbox
Plus Many More!!

dgyver

A rejet is needed when increasing the air flow, otherwise a lean condition will occur. Changing jets is simple and cheap.
Common sense in not very common.

TheDrunknmonky

I agree that a re-jet and intake are inexpensive upgrades and those are the 2 I'm planning on doing first.  My concern is not upgrading the exhaust at the same time.  Am I  going to create too much back pressure, or maybe not enough exhaust flow?  Is it possible to drill out the muffler, as opposed to replacing it?
06 GS500F
14t Front Sprocket
Flush Mount LED signals
Kat 600 Rear Shock
20/65/147.5 rejet
D&D exhaust
K&N Lunchbox
Plus Many More!!


gsJack

As I recall the earlier 89-00 pre 3 circuit carbs were jetted much leaner here in the US than they were around the rest of the world.  Common practice was to change US EPA jetted bikes to same size jets as used abroad.
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Mandres

The way I understood it was that people have had a hard time finding a jet combo that works well with the lunchbox filter and the stock exhaust.  I'm sure with some patience and trial & error it could be made to work fine though.

The Buddha

You can do pipe without leaning it off too much. Lunch box is huge, that will make it very lean.
Pipe you can slide for a while if you put washers or have a little high float set (common on 89-00 as they wear high - them little buggers need fiddling every bloody year).
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mach1

Doing an intake and jets are not that hard  even with stock exhaust hell even a slipon can rhe header restrick the f%$k out of the sxhaust. Doing a slipon only will be fine I did it and seen no change. Doin a rejet only is great. Doing the intake alone bad idead. Leaving the bike stock and ride and have fun really easy.
04Gs,fenderectomy,V&H Full exhaust,Vortex clip-ons.13t front sprocket.,Uni Pods,22.5/65/147.5,Katana rear shock,M-1 metzeler 150 rear tire,Yamaha R6 Tail-SOLD
79 Honda CM185t-In restoration mode with this bike.DEAD slammed 2003 Honda Shadow 600, matte black everything 18inch ape hangers

simoniz

Quote from: galahs on January 06, 2009, 11:58:17 PM
You'll be fine if you keep using the stock exhaust.  :thumb:

+1 on that, that is what I am running on mine.
89 GS500e, K & N Lunchbox, Buddha jet kit, GS550 front forks, GS850 fender, ProMaxx tires and a big dollop of luck

ke7syv

Yeah true you can run a stock exhaust but you'll need to up the jets AGAIN after you change the muffler. Right?
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dgyver

Quote from: ke7syv on January 08, 2009, 01:18:02 AM
Yeah true you can run a stock exhaust but you'll need to up the jets AGAIN after you change the muffler. Right?


Correct. Jets are only $5-10 pair.
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