she's running like new!!

jrains89 · April 08, 2009, 11:09:28 AM

that battery is definitely dead, if it's completely dead and empty for that long and you fill it with distilled water you're going to dilute the acid to a point where it can't hold enough amps to run your bike. it's the battery, get a new one.

joshr08 · April 08, 2009, 11:11:41 AM

im not sure if you know or not but your not suppost to top off your battery until its fully charged.

tripleb · April 08, 2009, 11:24:40 AM

I did not know that. S***, that may explain why it wont hold a charge.

tripleb · April 09, 2009, 05:55:07 AM

I bought a new battery yesterday, prepped it and tried to start her up late last night. She is trying to turn so bad, but just won't start. I can't figure it out.

bill14224 · April 10, 2009, 04:36:42 PM

Look at your plugs. It will tell you if you're getting gas or not. If they're wet, it's a plug, ignition, or timing problem. If they're dry, no gas. Start it on PRI so you know the petcock isn't holding back the fuel. You can verify enough fuel delivery to start the bike by opening the float bowl screws to see if gas comes out.

I assume your bike ran before you took the carbs apart. If so, check the carbs again and put the stock jets back in while you save for pipes. Leaving 140's in with stock pipes = bad idea, like Buddha told you.

Then again, you could have an ignition or timing problem and you tackled the carbs by mistake. It seems a lot of that goes on here. Ignition problems are more common, like bad electrical connections, bad plugs or plug wires, bad ignition coils, bad pickup coils, or your ignition control module took a crap. Timing issues happen after lots of wear and/or severe beatings, so their existence tends to be obvious because something's broken, like the cam chain!

ATLRIDER · April 11, 2009, 08:20:54 AM

Quote from: tripleb on April 09, 2009, 05:55:07 AM
I bought a new battery yesterday, prepped it and tried to start her up late last night. She is trying to turn so bad, but just won't start. I can't figure it out.

I'm kinda unclear when you say it cranks but wont "turn" and is trying to "turn" but won't start. By "turn" I assume you mean "run" or "start" right?

tripleb · April 11, 2009, 02:47:43 PM

well, the starting issue is not a problem anymore as I prayed extra hard today and cranked her up AND SHE STARTED!!! So I changed her oil and filter and cranked her up again. She is running at a really high idle, about 5K rpm with no choke. So I tried adjusting the idle screw and it didn't seem to make much of a difference. I think I 1) ran the throttle cable too tight when I reinstalled it or 2) the 140 main is causing the high hanging idle. I'm not sure what it else it could be though. any ideas?

Thanks for all you guys' help so far!!

joshr08 · April 11, 2009, 03:49:13 PM

does it go up or down when turning the hbars left and right?

ATLRIDER · April 11, 2009, 04:25:40 PM

I think either your choke or throttle cables a too tight. Main jet isn't the issue.

Edit: second thought, probably throttle cable cause I've never seen my idle go to 5k with full choke.

fred · April 11, 2009, 05:12:20 PM

Quote from: ATLRIDER on April 11, 2009, 04:25:40 PM
I think either your choke or throttle cables a too tight. Main jet isn't the issue.

Edit: second thought, probably throttle cable cause I've never seen my idle go to 5k with full choke.

You can actually get your idle up higher on partial choke than you can on full choke... I agree that you should double check cable tension and routing. Also, if the throttle cable is stuck, the idle screw won't do anything past a certain point. You should be able to drop the idle so low they bike stalls with the idle screw even with some other mixture problem because the idle screw directly controls the butterfly valves. If the butterfly valves close all the way, no more air goes into your carbs and the bike stalls out. Also, when you take the tank off to look at it, you should notice that the bar connecting the butterfly valves isn't touching the idle screw when the throttle is off. This is a sure sign your cable is too tight.

ATLRIDER · April 11, 2009, 07:18:46 PM

I'm intrigued about the partial choke thing. I've got something to tinker with now.

tripleb · April 11, 2009, 08:18:56 PM

I do remember that when I redid the jets I saw that the butterfly valves bar did not touch the idle screw so I guess I do have the throttle too tight.

tripleb · April 12, 2009, 01:06:06 PM

I dug back through the carbs this afternoon and reinstalled the throttle cable and now she runs like normal. It's amazing what properly installing things can do

apparently, the carbs have 2 throttle cable installation positions and I installed it on the wrong one making it about .5 cm too tight which caused the 5k idle.

Thanks to all your help guys!! Here's some pics of me on the bike afterwards giving it a quick run around the block. I think I look huge on it.

ATLRIDER · April 12, 2009, 01:43:02 PM

Awesome

sachsaca · April 23, 2009, 01:57:32 PM

John Wayne looked big on his horse too...

Toogoofy317 · April 23, 2009, 05:28:36 PM

Were you out on Avalon rd today. A gs turned out in front of me but I could not catch up to many slow cages! I may be up to a leisure ride this weekend if you're game. Oh, that road I told you about they friggen' closed it. I will rant more about that on another thread though. Glad all is running well!
Mary

LOUiE · April 23, 2009, 06:22:00 PM

Quote from: sachsaca on April 23, 2009, 01:57:32 PM
John Wayne looked big on his horse too...

tripleb · April 23, 2009, 06:35:59 PM

no, it wasn't me Mary. I have only been out on my bike for about 30 minutes on Monday this week. I am looking forward to riding it to work tomorrow though

I can't ride this weekend as I'll be picking up some fencing down in SoFlo. Maybe sometime in late May or June.

bill14224 · April 23, 2009, 07:08:14 PM

So glad you finally got that bee-yotch running!

I'd be going ape-shiite if I lived in Fla and didn't have a running bike for 5 months. That just would not do!

Yeah, you do look pretty big on it. I wish I were tall.

If I understand, the extent of your problem was the need for a battery, then you cleaned the carbs and put the throttle cable on wrong. It all makes sense now. Your throttle was stuck open and of course it won't want to start if the throttle is open too much.

More evidence of how reliable the GS really is, as long as you put it back together right!

I did a similar thing once and got hurt. I rebuilt the carb on my first bike when I was a teenager. I failed to line-up the pin in the slide with the groove in the body. I couldn't start it because the slide was all the way at the top, but I didn't know it. I got mad and took the bike down to the corner restaurant where they had a big parking lot. I ran with the bike and popped it in second. Well, the bike stood straight up and screamed across the parking lot on a wheelie, dragging me along as I hadn't gotten both legs over it. I crashed into a hedgerow wheels first at the end of the lot and tore half the skin off my left hand on the pavement, preserving the bike. As I was being dragged I realized the slide was stuck at the top. At that point in time the bike was more valuable to me than my hide. 5 minutes after I got home from the emergency room I had the bike purring nicely. My mother thought I was crazy. Perhaps she was right!

The Buddha · April 23, 2009, 08:23:56 PM

Quote from: tripleb on April 11, 2009, 08:18:56 PM
I do remember that when I redid the jets I saw that the butterfly valves bar did not touch the idle screw so I guess I do have the throttle too tight.

Oh yea ... I saw one ... first time ever ... the carbs were off the bike and the idle scew didn't touch the throttle stop tang ...
No cables were even on the thing ... any one guess why ...
Oh yea, some genius pulled the butterflies and installed 1 upside down.
Heard of Upside down front end right ... dont know why upside down carburetor isn't done more often.
Cool.
Buddha.

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