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Did the 14 tooth front sprocket today, nice!

Started by speedsix, August 09, 2009, 02:21:32 PM

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speedsix

I got the 14 tooth sprocket and installed it.  Had to remove a link but my chain was long anyway. 

It is a great mod that makes the bike feel like it is in the right gear more often.  I was always bogging down with the 16 tooth sprocket in second gear mostly.  Taking a corner in second used to suck because sometime you almost wanted to down shift to first.  Now it feels right. 

It does rev a bit higher which gets you into the power band faster.   

Highway speeds were no problem.  I went 90mph and still had plenty of tac left so I am sure I could 100mph if needed.  I don't need a bike to go any faster than 100mph. 

1994 GS500E

joshr08

news flash there isnt a power band on the gs500 its a 4 stroke and they dont have power bands only 2strokes do. :thumb:
05 GS500F
mods
k&n air filter,pro grip gel grips,removed grab handle,pro grip carbin fiber tank pad,14/45 sprockets RK X-oring Chain, Kat rear shock swap and Kat rear wheel swap 160/60-17 Shinko raven rear 120/60-17 front matching set polished and painted rims

speedsix

Well it gets you into the higher RPMs faster which is the sweet spot for the power. 
1994 GS500E

speedsix

I did run into one problem.  The sprocket Bike Bandit sent me was the wrong one.  They sent me a JTF-512.14.  That is the sprocket for the newer GS500s like my wife's 2007.  I am not sure what the JT# for the 1994 version is but it is in the other thread about 14 tooth sprockets.  I wanted it on my bike today so I ground it down enough to fit.  The only difference is there is about a 1mm of extra metal on the face of the gear.  I ground that down and it fit fine.  I called Bike Bandit before I ordered to make sure I had the right part but they still messed up.  That was the first and last time I order from them.
1994 GS500E

XealotX

I've placed one order with Bike Bandit. They totally screwed that order up. They can blow me.
"Personally, I'm hung like a horse.   A small horse.  OK, a seahorse, but, dammit, a horse nonetheless!" -- Caffeine

"Okay. You people sit tight, hold the fort and keep the home fires burning. And if we're not back by dawn... call the president." -- Jack Burton

abnoea

From the wiki:
1988 to 1993 = No flange on Sprocket (Part# JTF 565)
1994 to 2007 = Flange on Sprocket (Part# JTF 516)

I too have only placed one order from Bikebandit and they messed it up =/

joshr08

discounthondaparts.com uses the same format as bikebandit its all motorcycle parts and they are cheaper.....might be worth checking out.
05 GS500F
mods
k&n air filter,pro grip gel grips,removed grab handle,pro grip carbin fiber tank pad,14/45 sprockets RK X-oring Chain, Kat rear shock swap and Kat rear wheel swap 160/60-17 Shinko raven rear 120/60-17 front matching set polished and painted rims

tt_four

yeah, I've got the 14t on mine, but I changed the rear from 39t stock up to 47t, and I can still hit 95. You should still be good for 105-110 on yours, but I feel the same way, no real need for speeds over 100 unless you're willing to take the trouble that comes with it.

jeremy_nash

#8
Quote from: joshr08 on August 09, 2009, 03:44:14 PM
news flash there isnt a power band on the gs500 its a 4 stroke and they dont have power bands only 2strokes do. :thumb:

all engines have a powerband, check out the definition of powerband  :thumb:   :cheers:
http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/PO.HTM
gsxr shock
katana FE
99 katana front rim swap
vapor gauge cluster
14 tooth sprocket
95 on an 89 frame
lunchbox
V&H ssr2 muffler
jetted carbs
150-70-17 pilot road rear
120-70-17 sportmax front
sv650 rear wheel
sv650 tail swap
gsxr pegs
GP shift

KasbeKZ

woot ^^^^

yes every engine has a power band. it's the rev range in which the engine performs best. in other words, you should shift at the top of it, and you next gear starts at the bottom of it, hopefully

GSnoober

BEFORE this turns into ANOTHER stupid pissing contest, and as much as I'd rather just ignore this thread, I tend to think that joshr08 was making a JOKE there. MOST of us know that engines are designed to have a powerband of SOME type, even slow-revving (700 RPM max) diesel ship engines, so let's not allow this to get out of hand. I've read enough of his posts over the years to know that josh didn't fall off a watermelon truck yesterday, and he isn't a 17 year-old know-nothing big-mouthed wise-ass, so shake hands, and we'll all pretend we learned something we didn't already know about engines today.

HOWEVER, if you'd rather fight about this, then go to your corners, wait for the bell, and come out swinging. Of course, if THAT happens, I'll be the FIRST one to ask the mods to ban BOTH of you, and anyone else who chooses to get into the middle of this.

Some of you know that I spent a good part of my life in the military, and I'd probably STILL be on active duty if I hadn't developed some serious health problems several years ago. OK, so maybe I'm too old for active duty now, but my kid brother is in Iraq, and he'll be FIFTY soon... and I'd give ANYTHING to turn back the clock and join him there. Yes, I've already been to the big sand pile, but so has my brother; I'd just like to be there to watch his back this time, knowing he's watching mine.

Take this as friendly advice from someone who's been around the track a few times; we can educate one another without disrespecting or insulting anyone. I actually laughed when I read the comment joshr08 made about the GS powerband; hey josh, if you think four-stroke twins don't have a powerband, try riding a four-stroke single some day. You can time the power strokes with a sundial! Still, I'm proud to be a Thumperhead; there's a special place in my heart for big (four-stroke) singles, and I'll eventually build my dream thumpersickle... someday...

If you guys can't be friendly for some reason, then at least be civil to one another; it beats the dogsh*t out of being enemies... Lastly, let's keep the mods OUT of these threads, unless they're needed for a GOOD reason. Some of the mods have hair-triggers on their ban-hammers, and I don't want to see anyone else get banned from here, unless they REALLY fsck up...

gsJack

#11
I just let the no powerband comment above pass but I've been commenting on the GS500 power band of approx 7-9000 rpm for 10 years and 150k GS500 miles.  You can make the best time when riding in a spirited manner by keeping it in the 7-9k range and going much over 9k is non productive on a stock GS500 even though it's redlined at 11k, dropping to the next gear from 9k puts you back on top of the torque curve.  A good job of jetting with intake and exhaust mods will extend the range up another 1k or so but seems hardly worth the price to me for a 10% at best power increase.  I even took the time to calculate the speed in mph for the 7-9k power band with stock 16T compared to 14T front sprockets for comparison purposes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/GS500gearing-sprocket-rpms.jpg
407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

KasbeKZ

arguing or not, if something that looks wrong and is not identified as a joke is written, it should be corrected to assure accuracy in the archives so that new people searching don't stumble across it and get mis informed. none of the corrections were argumentative. if it was a joke, than the corrections just act to have it identified as so. not a big deal. ban me if you like...

tt_four

Calling someone a fool sounds a little arguementative to me. Still looks to be done in humor considering he also ended his post with a  :thumb:, unless that was meant to be sarcastic as well. Fighting sarcasm with Sarcasm makes my head hurt.

GSnoober

Quote from: KasbeKZ on August 10, 2009, 07:36:12 AM
arguing or not, if something that looks wrong and is not identified as a joke is written, it should be corrected to assure accuracy in the archives so that new people searching don't stumble across it and get mis informed. none of the corrections were argumentative. if it was a joke, than the corrections just act to have it identified as so. not a big deal. ban me if you like...
Hey KasbeKZ, what made you think anything I wrote was directed at YOU? I don't have any problems with your post, and it seems clear that it didn't bother gsJack, so allow me to clarify my previous comment:

When I mentioned banning "...BOTH of you...", I was referring to joshr08 and jeremy_nash, since one of them used the word "foolish" when referring to the other one, and I don't want them to begin sniping at one another.

Your post was clear and to the point; I also try to keep from confusing the newbies. Too much misinformation gets posted as "truth"; I've been riding street for half my life now, so I try hard to get the facts straight. Now that I think about it, I probably should have quoted those two posts, so you'd know that nothing I wrote was directed at you; sorry about the oversight.

You and I shouldn't have any problems here; from my perspective, we're on the same wavelength... You made a clear, consise point, as did gsJack; I'm just trying to keep the squabbling to a minimum these days. Wladziu got banned recently, and I don't want to see it happen to anyone else. I hereby apologize to you for any misunderstanding my remarks caused...

noober

Toogoofy317

Seriously, Can we just talk about bikes? I want my 30 seconds of reading back! :whisper:

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

tt_four

#16
Quote from: GSnoober on August 10, 2009, 08:08:46 AM
Too much misinformation gets posted as "truth"; I've been riding street for half my life now, so I try hard to get the facts straight.

I heard if you put a teaspoon of your own blood in the carburetors, your bike will gain 15hp. True story. You gain 25hp if it's someone else's blood.

GSnoober

Quote from: tt_four on August 10, 2009, 09:06:28 AM
I heard if you put a teaspoon of your own blood in the carburetors, your bike will gain 15hp. True story. You gain 25hp if it's someone else's blood.
You forgot to mention soaking the air filter in your own blood, your bike will gain 15hp. True story. You gain 25hp if it's someone else's blood.

KasbeKZ

it's all good thanks for the clarification.

jeremy_nash

I didnt mean it as an insult, it just puzzles me everytime I hear someone say only 2strokes have a powerband, plus I was drunk when I made the post.  josh, I didn't mean any disrespect, and I truly apologize if you or anyone else takes it that way!    I will also edit my above post, so that nobody thinks I'm just a jerk!
gsxr shock
katana FE
99 katana front rim swap
vapor gauge cluster
14 tooth sprocket
95 on an 89 frame
lunchbox
V&H ssr2 muffler
jetted carbs
150-70-17 pilot road rear
120-70-17 sportmax front
sv650 rear wheel
sv650 tail swap
gsxr pegs
GP shift

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