'02+ Kat wheel work for rear swap?

[O.C.D.]

So a second gen SV should work if the GS bearing s were put in then?

What is the outer diamter of the GS bearings?  Is the OD for Suzuki bikes all the same?  If so a GS bearing set would fit I would think.  Then use everything else off of the GS and mount her up?!

[dgyver]

They should be the same OD. Look on the online parts fiche diagrams to confirm (Bike Bandit, Ron Ayers, etc). They usually have the bearing size listed.

[The Buddha]

I got GS rear wheel bearings, $15 and ship for 2, but the coolest thing is the mother of all install tools ... the coolest and best install tool ever. Its free loaned out, with purchase of bearings, just return to me when done.

BTW OCD, you'd save $2 if I can ship it with your jets. Basically 15 for bearings and 8 to ship em, and the jets get to ride in that same box free. Shipping be $10 for bearing tool and bearings, but I'll move the $2 from the jets shipping cost.

You install it and send me the tool back.

Cool.
Buddha.

[O.C.D.]

Ok, so it seems that I am right so far.  I can get a 2nd gen or even first gen SV wheel and simply use the GS bearings then?!  If it is that easy why has no one else done this?

[The Buddha]

Yea OCD, you're the only one ... the first ... no one ever ... ever ... you're the first to think of fitting other bike parts onto our GS ...  ...

Anyway with the 17mm bearing ID wheel you dont have to use the GS bearings, you just leave its original bearings in it, they are identical to the GS ones. With the later SV/kat wiht 20mm ID you use the GS bearings in it.

Honestly, 02+ wheels tend to be cheaper just for the pain of bearing swaps ... much like the 89-96 kat legs are harder to find. GS'es ironically have really taken the supply of kat parts to a drought stage. Being unchanged for 20 years does that sometimes. For a few $$ in bearings you can save 40-50 bucks+ on a wheel.

Cool.
Buddha.

[JEREMY JOCK]

One more question (sorry for the thread-jack  ) ...

This rotor will fit my 98+ Kat wheel, right?



It's listed for these models, but it doesn't give years:
GSX1300R Hayabusa
GSXR1100
GSX600 KATANA
GSX750 KATANA
SV650
GSF600 BANDIT
GSF1200 BANDIT
RF600
RF900

I'm assuming it does, but I just want to be 100% before I go ordering parts that don't work, haha.

[O.C.D.]

Yea OCD, you're the only one ... the first ... no one ever ... ever ... you're the first to think of fitting other bike parts onto our GS ...  ...

Why does it have to be like that Srinath?  I am trying to learn about options.  I know I am not the first to think of this.  But, I am trying to figure it out.

[dgyver]

Ok, so it seems that I am right so far.  I can get a 2nd gen or even first gen SV wheel and simply use the GS bearings then?!  If it is that easy why has no one else done this?

SV wheels generally carry a higher price than Katana parts. Not everyone knows the SV and Kat rear wheels are the same.

[psyber_0ptix]

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=42231.0
it appears that ben2go had information regarding this swap

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=42844.0
this guy is swapping svwheel, who knows if it's been completed

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=40075.0
repeating information re: katana wheel swap. It's the same, people have known, people have done


Only reason i picked up a kat wheel was to help a forum member's sale and have buddha powdercoat it white.


Pick up whatever wheel floats to your doorstep at lowest cost...hopefully in the color you prefer. We shouldnt be sitting on an internet board bickering about things that have been previously discussed in the past. So let's all go out and ride before temperatures get too cool.

[O.C.D.]

2005 GS500F main wheel bearing:
B1 25X62X17 BEA
25X62X17
3097850-001


2005 SV650 main wheel bearing:
B1 25X62X17 BEA
25X62X17
3097850-001

2005 Katana:
B1 25X62X17 BEA
(25X62X17)
7359326-001


my1992 GS500:
B1 25X62X17 BEA
25X62X17
471546-001

Odd, they have the exact bearing dimensions with different part numbers.  So even an SV would not need new GS bearings?!

[O.C.D.]

2005 Katana rear rotor:
DISC,REAR BRAKE
7256057-001

2005 SV rear rotor:
DISC,REAR BRAKE
1104013-001

1999 Katana rear rotor:
DISC,REAR BRAKE
518036-001

1999 SV650 rear rotor:
DISC,REAR BRAKE
518036-001

The 2005 part numbers do not match, but the 1999 ones do?!  That being said I think it is safe to say that they are all the same for all the years.  May have different part numbers, but overall they are unchanged.

Anyone with further input?

[O.C.D.]

Ok, here is a gen 2 SV wheel on the left with rotor.  On the right is a Gen 1 1999 wheel and rotor.  I highlighted the differences.  It appears to be the same but the older rotor has a lot more metal mass to it.



Here is a 99 Katana rotor:


The '99 Kat rotor is identical to the SV gen 1's.  I doubt Suzuki changed rotor diameters on the gen 2 SV's.  I think a modern SV wheel with the same bearings already installed with this different rotor is the ticket. 

[psyber_0ptix]

the rotor may have just been redesigned but maintain the same BCD

just do it and post a writeup already   

[O.C.D.]

I will, I will.  Need to win the damn thing first, lol.  Debating using the auction tire or just buying the two new Metzlers for the FE swap as well?

Got a HUGE hole burning in my pocket for the swap.  Gonna be a great winter project:

SV rear - new 160/60
GSXRfront end swap - 06 I think
GSXR '02 wheel to make the spokes look like the SV
Ducati full back half replacement
Painting
etc....

Can't wait as the FE and rear wheel is all I need.

[psyber_0ptix]

hmm....identical setup to mybike except i weight redux with no rear fairings

[O.C.D.]

hmm....identical setup to mybike except i weight redux with no rear fairings

I cannot lie, your bike is a example I am following.

Psyber - did you use the '02 axle for the front wheel or the '06 axle?  Are they interchangeable?

Also, is the 1000 front end different than a 600?  That is one thing I cannot find out.

Thx

[psyber_0ptix]

axles should be the same 2001+

if i recall, gsxr 1k and or hayabusa forks may be shorter than 600/750's

you definately want 600/750's because these are closer to the GS length. The lower clamp will be at the top of the clampable area on the fork. There isn't much room to play with regarding the fitment/length of the forks.

[jeremy_nash]

I am using a sv650 rear wheel.  I used the bearings from the sv. used the gs sprocket carrier.  bent the toque rod, and spaced the sprocket to clear my tire.

I beleive it may have been a first gen mine came from though

[O.C.D.]

I was just about to bid on a complete front end off an'08 GSXR1000. 

I searched for a while and cannot find the fork length.  Does anyone know where to find the specs of 600/750/1000 forks?

Is the difference a big factor?

[The Buddha]

I believe 1000 forks are plenty long enough. The sv1k guys use em all the time and sv1k forks are plenty long for GS.
Cool.
Buddha.