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Started by cyberdork, December 08, 2009, 08:30:25 PM

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cyberdork

Ah crap, how am I going to bake it, doubt it will fit in our over, and chances of my mom allowing me to do it are slim to none.

BaltimoreGS

Quote from: cyberdork on December 09, 2009, 05:12:14 PM
I also plan to do a single stage, unless the base/clear combo is near the same price. I'm actually using the same primer as redhen. How do these fair against airgun primers?

Base/Clear will cost a lot more than single stage urethane.  Are you using rattle can primer?  They are a lot less efficient than the same amount of paint run through a HVLP paint gun.  This is the primer that was used on Kay's bike:  http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksp2kprime.aspx  A little over $30 a quart with shipping.

-Jessie

cyberdork

Awesome link. Should I go with the quart kit KUS KIT-KFP305? One thing that is worrying me is rust inside the tank. I can't seem to get all the water out of it. I dumped some rubbing alcohol in the tank and swished it around (rubbing alcohol helps water evaporate right?). Right now I have that tank sitting cap open, overtop of a floor vent in our shopping hoping that the draft will help dry it out. If not can I always just jam a hairdryer in the gas cap for awhile? lol

BaltimoreGS

I used the 2 part kit that just has the primer: KUS KFP305  Keep working the rubbing alcohol around the tank and eventually it will evaporate all the water, it does take some time and effort though.  How does the inside of the tank look?  If it needs to be treated, do that before you start the paint work.  There is a radiator shop in south Baltimore that did Kay's tank.  If the inside looks pretty good, just dry it out and run a fuel filter when you reinstall it   :thumb: 

-Jessie

cyberdork

It looks pretty spotty with rust. How much does it cost to get it treated?

DoD#i

Quote from: cyberdork on December 09, 2009, 07:34:05 PM
Ah crap, how am I going to bake it, doubt it will fit in our over, and chances of my mom allowing me to do it are slim to none.

Well, the point of my post was that the fancy paint said it needed to be baked. The BBQ black doesn't, though it does cure (& smell) a bit when you fire up the bike after painting.
1990 GS500EL - with moderately-ugly paintjob.
1982 XJ650LJ -  off the road for slow repairs
AGATT - All Gear All The Time
"Ride a motorcycle.  Save Gas, Oil, Rubber, Steel, Aluminum, Parking Spaces, The Environment, and Money.  Plus, you get to wear all the leather you want!"
(from DoD#296)

BaltimoreGS

Quote from: cyberdork on December 10, 2009, 04:25:34 AM
It looks pretty spotty with rust. How much does it cost to get it treated?

I think it was about $100.  Kay's tank was rusted to the point it was clogging the carbs, if yours isn't too bad you can probably get away with cleaning out the tank and using a fuel filter.

If you order something from TCP Global, please add a Restoration Shop Color Chart to your order for me.  It is their part # RSP CC-144 and is $3.  I've been wanting one but don't want to pay $10 shipping to get it   ;)  Thanks

-Jessie

redhenracing2

Quote from: BaltimoreGS on December 09, 2009, 02:47:41 PM
It only takes about a pint of color (if all goes well...) to paint a naked GS.
I used exactly one quart to paint:

1. The tail plastics and tank on the bike
2. My helmet
3. A playstation 2 controller (who has the coolest system on the block now, eh?  :D)
4. A skateboard
5. The outside of my garage lol (if you don't get it, see the pics in my thread-- http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=50319.0 )
Quote from: cozy on April 25, 2005, 11:03:14 AM
Try dropping down to 4 Oreos and set your pilot screw 3 turns out.

cyberdork

I think I'll use a fuel filter, it's not too bad. I see what you're saying now DoD#i. Redhen, ps2 was deffinately the best. My GF owns a PS3, I've owned 360, but never played either one of them as much as the ps2. We actually rececently bought a ps2 so she could play Vigilante 8 and I could play Gran Turismo 3. It just sucks I don't have a game shark anymore and can use unlimited credits to buy and upgrade cars lol. I'm having gallbladder problems today and hope I can get into the garage tomorrow for more progress.

cyberdork

Quote from: BaltimoreGS on December 09, 2009, 09:08:58 PM
I used the 2 part kit that just has the primer: KUS KFP305  Keep working the rubbing alcohol around the tank and eventually it will evaporate all the water, it does take some time and effort though.  How does the inside of the tank look?  If it needs to be treated, do that before you start the paint work.  There is a radiator shop in south Baltimore that did Kay's tank.  If the inside looks pretty good, just dry it out and run a fuel filter when you reinstall it   :thumb: 

-Jessie

So no need to get the hardener? The discription only talks about priming metal. Would it be safe to use it on plastic as well?

cyberdork




Bondo is such a damn chore since I'm new to it and keep adding way too much hardener and have about a minute to work with it until it starts turning to putty. Will have to sand and apply a second coating.

DoD#i

Quote from: cyberdork on December 11, 2009, 05:40:38 PM
Bondo is such a damn chore since I'm new to it and keep adding way too much hardener and have about a minute to work with it until it starts turning to putty. Will have to sand and apply a second coating.

Since you understand the problem, you understand the solution.

Stop having that problem. A Little Dab'll Do Ya.

Also, you'll run out of hardener way early...
1990 GS500EL - with moderately-ugly paintjob.
1982 XJ650LJ -  off the road for slow repairs
AGATT - All Gear All The Time
"Ride a motorcycle.  Save Gas, Oil, Rubber, Steel, Aluminum, Parking Spaces, The Environment, and Money.  Plus, you get to wear all the leather you want!"
(from DoD#296)

cyberdork

Haha I'll get it eventually. Only my 2nd time bondo'ing. First time was on a realitively smooth surface, this is on the lip of the tank that bends all kinds of ways lol. I sanded alot of that down and applied a second bondo coat, I'm going back out now to sand it down. Will post pictures.

cyberdork

After 2nd coat and sanding




Think I'll address the remaining dimples in the bondo with glazing puddy. Done for the night. Progress is slow until I get the paint and gun.

cyberdork

Well I got the primer and hardener at NAPA under the advice of the guy that worked there. Extremely helpful guy helped me for a good 30 minutes so I didn't want to leave without atleast buying something. Ended up with this:

A little pricey compared to that link unfortunately. $50. Now I just have to decided on a color :technical: Stuck between a bright white, a torquoise metalic, or a green metalic like redhens bike (lame to copy but I love that color!)

cyberdork

No progress to report. Got lazy, then got lasik and still am paranoid about getting stuff in my eyes. Need to finish sanding and get everything atleast primered. School is taking up my nights, so not much progress for the weeks.

remo2k9

Quote from: cyberdork on February 16, 2010, 06:34:09 PM
No progress to report. Got lazy, then got lasik and still am paranoid about getting stuff in my eyes. Need to finish sanding and get everything atleast primered. School is taking up my nights, so not much progress for the weeks.
get bright wghite

cyberdork

Forgot about that, still need paint lol. Was thinking Kia copperhead:

http://starbeacon.autoconx.com/photos/924/501114924_1_B.jpg

or white....

cyberdork

I sanded the majority of the plastic peices down to the plastic. Would I see an unsmooth surface if I was to rough up the remainder and paint overtop of it or is it so thin that it won't be noticable. It's smooth by hand.

BaltimoreGS

Don't go too crazy sanding, as long as it is no longer shiny paint should stick to it.  Put a coat of primer on and wet sand the piece, then you can judge the smoothness.  Run your fingertips over it while it is wet and you will feel if there are imperfections.

-Jessie

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