holy smokes that's fast!

[ohgood]

had some backup stuff going, and killed a partition that wasn't supposed to be today...

since the boot partition was ohhhh, almost 5 years old, i thought it might be not so bad to blat it out.

so the boot partition is toasted, new filesystem, new OS image, and new image on the backup partition of this minty fresh, all gmail/crap setup partition...

holy smokes it's fast ! and with only 1.5Ghz processor !

i've really gotta talk myself into a new imac now... with those 4 cores of speedy goodness... ohhh january, please bring new upgrades !

[tt_four]

I didn't understand a single word of that. I spent the majority of the time I was reading it picturing you knocking down a small wall.

[jeremy_nash]

he basicly did a reinstall of his operating system on a old computer, and it made it fast again..           

[bill14224]

It's amazing how fast a PC will run when it's not being strangled by malware and obsolete and/or corrupted registry entries. 

[natedawg120]

I need 2 larger HDDs and a new mainboard.  Since i have to get a MB i just want to go ahead and get another proc, i'll leave this thing running somthing linuxy .  But eventually, sometime soonish, i will be doing the same ...

[makenzie71]

I wish I could (aka "knew how") back up everything I want and do that same thing...delete it all, start fresh.  I have a 2.5ghz computer that runs like a 486.

[ohgood]

It's amazing how fast a PC will run when it's not being strangled by malware and obsolete and/or corrupted registry entries. 

ahhhh, yes, i remember the days of the registry nightmares... and virus.... and malware...

then we got a mac. sweet. alas, after 4 years of installing app this or app that, it had a few problems.

the coolest part about -not- using windows ? never rebooting, never caring about viruses, and never, ever having to worry about a corrupt registry.

this 1.5Ghz machine is running faster than the demo quad core machines at bestbuy (for now)

[trumpetguy]

then we got a mac. sweet. alas, after 4 years of installing app this or app that, it had a few problems.

So why the need to reinstall and repartition?

this 1.5Ghz machine is running faster than the demo quad core machines at bestbuy (for now)

And why "for now" -- it's a Mac, isn't it -- should be "forever" problem free.   Right...

I think Macs are nice machines.  Good hardware, good OS.  However, you pay DEARLY for the privilege, and you cannot upgrade things yourself for the most part. 

Viruses don't attack Macs because for the hackers, there's no glory in writing a virus for 5-10% of the market share.  FWIW, I've never once had a virus attack and I use freeware anti-virus (AVG).   I have less than $900 in BOTH a year-old dual-core laptop AND desktop.  Try that on a Mac...

[tt_four]

Any time I have a computer problem I have to take it to my friend. Most recently he reformated and uploaded some business version of Windows. It works fine now, and I don't complain because I'm glad he fixed it, but it's totally slower than it was before...

[jeremy_nash]

Ill just keep my quad 2.5 ghz phenom II with 8 gigs ram, and 2TB hard drives running windows 7.  have 2 months without reboot till the other day when the power went out!

[ohgood]

then we got a mac. sweet. alas, after 4 years of installing app this or app that, it had a few problems.

So why the need to reinstall and repartition?

this 1.5Ghz machine is running faster than the demo quad core machines at bestbuy (for now)

And why "for now" -- it's a Mac, isn't it -- should be "forever" problem free.   Right...

I think Macs are nice machines.  Good hardware, good OS.  However, you pay DEARLY for the privilege, and you cannot upgrade things yourself for the most part. 

Viruses don't attack Macs because for the hackers, there's no glory in writing a virus for 5-10% of the market share.  FWIW, I've never once had a virus attack and I use freeware anti-virus (AVG).   I have less than $900 in BOTH a year-old dual-core laptop AND desktop.  Try that on a Mac...

comfy socks cost more too. worth every penny.

upgrade ? it's intel, soooo moot, but i don't htink i'll upgrade anything on a laptop anyway.

you're right about system creep though, they all corrode over time. kinda stated  that in the topic of this thread.

i've tried, i really have, to use windows vista and 7. it's very confusing, very hard to find settings/file-sharing/ or just setup wifi. color me lazy, you'll be right

[trumpetguy]

comfy socks cost more too. worth every penny.

upgrade ? it's intel, soooo moot, but i don't htink i'll upgrade anything on a laptop anyway.

you're right about system creep though, they all corrode over time. kinda stated  that in the topic of this thread.

i've tried, i really have, to use windows vista and 7. it's very confusing, very hard to find settings/file-sharing/ or just setup wifi. color me lazy, you'll be right

I'm with you on the socks -- there are some things this cheap old bastard will spend money on!

I'm just too cheap to buy a Mac.  I grew up using DOS on PCs (and before that Atari DOS).  I'm comfortable playing with Windows PCs at the hardware and software levels.  SO I can afford to be cheap...

[Bluesmudge]

So are you running an old powerbook? I have a first gen macbook pro (1.83ghz) and I thought that was old as it turns 4 this month. Its hard to believe intel macs have already been out that long. However, unless I'm video editing or playing games my mac is hardly slower than the brand new ones in the stores.
You don't need a supercomputer to do web browsing and run office applications. A computer should be able to run at least as fast as the day you bought it, if it can't reinstall the OS. I do it on Windows and mac, but find it makes the biggest difference on widows (but harder/longer to do).

[ohgood]

So are you running an old powerbook? I have a first gen macbook pro (1.83ghz) and I thought that was old as it turns 4 this month. Its hard to believe intel macs have already been out that long. However, unless I'm video editing or playing games my mac is hardly slower than the brand new ones in the stores.
You don't need a supercomputer to do web browsing and run office applications. A computer should be able to run at least as fast as the day you bought it, if it can't reinstall the OS. I do it on Windows and mac, but find it makes the biggest difference on widows (but harder/longer to do).

ya, this laptop was purchased the within months of the intel machines coming out. i've been through the pain that is reinstalling windows- and decided back then that unix stuff was just a no brainer.

image ---> wipe partition ----> dump image to partition ----> import keychains = done.

althgough i did have to restart twice (GAH !) after the quicktime and security updates. understandable, since it was coming from 10.4 to 10.5.8.

[Jay_wolf]

Dont like Macs , Have a Quad core 2.9 amd , 800w power supply, 4 gigs of ddr800 ram, windows xp on a 160 gb raptor x 10000rpm hd , 1tb for media storage , 2x 8800gts in sli, hd audio , run thro HDMI to a 24 inch widescreen monitor. awesome. haha

[bombadillo]

Wow, thats a monster ^^

[Jay_wolf]

There isnt a game i cant run , its cost me 600 pounds but i built it over 4 months , so a month it was nothing , compaired to a 1000 pound mac book , it would smoke it

[JB848]

I'd like to take this chance to debunk some fallacies.

Macs are more secure and reliable then PC's (Microsoft Operating Systems):

False: I had the pleasure of working with some of the top engineers with Cisco when "Call Manager 5.0" was released. This was a class "A" release, which is the largest classification that Cisco does. In this release Cisco introduced Redhat as an alternative to the Windows OS. They did not discontinue Windows they just offered Linux (they just "ported" over the application to Linux) as another option to appease the Linux market. I was under the impression at that time as well as probably everyone in the universe that Linux was more stable and secure OS and that this is why Cisco was doing this new release with both Linux and Windows and that in the next release of "Call Manager", which would be 6.0, would be only offered in Linux there by making the transition from Windows complete.

Boy was I wrong. I was enlightened by the Engineers at Cisco. I might add that these guys are some of the best "Hackers" in the country if not the world. They personally set up exercises with teams trying to "Hack" each others "Security" approach on Networks to include Servers, Routers, Switches, Clients, AP's and any other Network devices that has a vulnerability that can be exploited. Some of you might be thinking at this point that well that's not fair Cisco has a Layered approach with respect to security and that would be correct and they are one of the best at it. With that being said they test each layer for exploits so it is irrelevant with respect to the point I am making which is that any Windows OS can be configured with security policies that will render it as secure and stable as any Linux OS offered. Before you say, "wait a minute you are comparing Servers to Clients!" That would be correct! But in a Domain or Realm the Security Policy is enforced from and through the Domain Policy so it applies to any adjunct device in the network.

True: I will concede that there are instances that a Linux Server is better and just makes good sense. In Data centers that have legacy applications and hardware Linux is the proper choice. It takes less overhead and processing to do the same thing that a Windows OS would require. So if your cheap and don't update your facilities every 3-5 years stick with Linux.

With the new processing power and things like Viturality (VMWARE) available Windows OS has overcome these inherent weaknesses of High Demand of Processing and RAM resources. They can be allocated on demand and controlled on a priority basis.

True: Mac is better for Graphics/Web design. There is no dispute here at all. Windows is still lacking in this aspect and will for the forseeable future.

Now for all of you Apple Heads, as stated before there is no glory to create exploits for only 5% of the computers using that OS. But don't be fooled they are out there and are becoming a factor. I just don't see the point of having an OS that can't use 85% of the applications available on the market. Mac users are just being lazy nonconformist, conforming to the trendy notion that MAC's are cool. They are akin to the same kind of people that think they are smarter or cooler because they use Mozilla/Firefox instead of Internet Explorer. In actuallality IE can be configured to be as secure and stable and as an added bonus? Guess what? It displays Web Pages better and is more compatible with secure web sites such as the Banking industry for example, LOL.

For all of the PC people out there, there are some simple things you can do to equal or even surpass the stability and security claimed by Apple Heads.

1. Maintaining a current Anti-Virus on your machine and run scans at least once a month. In most cases you can use a free version of most like www.avg.com, www.avast.com, and www.free-av.com. Apple Heads will say " Well I don't need Anti-Virus". Good for you, and I guess you don't need the other 85% of the software out there either, LMAO...good argument!

2. Maintain a current Anti-Malware on your machine and runs scans at least once a month. There are excellent free versions out there. My personal favorite by an overwhelming recommendation is www.malwarebytes.org. there are others such as www.superanitspyware.com, www.adaware.com, and www.spybot.com to name a few.

3. Perform maintenance on your Registry!. If you are under the false impression/assumption that you have to reinstall a Windows OS to get that "just installed" speed. resist the temptation there are other alternatives! There are utilities out there and here is a great example of a little program for you to use www.ccleaner.com. It gives you the ability to safely clean the Registry of those annoying remnants of old unistalled programs, spyware, and malware left behind. These are the culprits that slow your machine down and create instability! 99.999% That's 5 9's of BOSD's are caused by registry errors.

4. And last but not least. Use "MSCONFIG" and turn off all those resource stealing programs that run in the background at startup! 99% of all that garbage does not need to run until you actually open the application. Yes it will start up slower, but ask yourself would you rather have something you rarely use start up slow or have your whole machine run slow all of the time? It's a no brainer.

So with this enlightenment and information you don't have to be an "Apple Head". Being a Mac user is like being a Harley owner. When you look at the facts, you really look silly and you are just being trendy.

[XealotX]

I love that picture.

[ohgood]

I'd like to take this chance to debunk some fallacies.

Macs are more secure and reliable then PC's (Microsoft Operating Systems):

False: I had the pleasure of working with some of the top engineers with Cisco when "Call Manager 5.0" was released. This was a class "A" release, which is the largest classification that Cisco does. In this release Cisco introduced Redhat as an alternative to the Windows OS. They did not discontinue Windows they just offered Linux (they just "ported" over the application to Linux) as another option to appease the Linux market. I was under the impression at that time as well as probably everyone in the universe that Linux was more stable and secure OS and that this is why Cisco was doing this new release with both Linux and Windows and that in the next release of "Call Manager", which would be 6.0, would be only offered in Linux there by making the transition from Windows complete.

Boy was I wrong. I was enlightened by the Engineers at Cisco. I might add that these guys are some of the best "Hackers" in the country if not the world. They personally set up exercises with teams trying to "Hack" each others "Security" approach on Networks to include Servers, Routers, Switches, Clients, AP's and any other Network devices that has a vulnerability that can be exploited. Some of you might be thinking at this point that well that's not fair Cisco has a Layered approach with respect to security and that would be correct and they are one of the best at it. With that being said they test each layer for exploits so it is irrelevant with respect to the point I am making which is that any Windows OS can be configured with security policies that will render it as secure and stable as any Linux OS offered. Before you say, "wait a minute you are comparing Servers to Clients!" That would be correct! But in a Domain or Realm the Security Policy is enforced from and through the Domain Policy so it applies to any adjunct device in the network.

True: I will concede that there are instances that a Linux Server is better and just makes good sense. In Data centers that have legacy applications and hardware Linux is the proper choice. It takes less overhead and processing to do the same thing that a Windows OS would require. So if your cheap and don't update your facilities every 3-5 years stick with Linux.

With the new processing power and things like Viturality (VMWARE) available Windows OS has overcome these inherent weaknesses of High Demand of Processing and RAM resources. They can be allocated on demand and controlled on a priority basis.

True: Mac is better for Graphics/Web design. There is no dispute here at all. Windows is still lacking in this aspect and will for the forseeable future.

Now for all of you Apple Heads, as stated before there is no glory to create exploits for only 5% of the computers using that OS. But don't be fooled they are out there and are becoming a factor. I just don't see the point of having an OS that can't use 85% of the applications available on the market. Mac users are just being lazy nonconformist, conforming to the trendy notion that MAC's are cool. They are akin to the same kind of people that think they are smarter or cooler because they use Mozilla/Firefox instead of Internet Explorer. In actuallality IE can be configured to be as secure and stable and as an added bonus? Guess what? It displays Web Pages better and is more compatible with secure web sites such as the Banking industry for example, LOL.

For all of the PC people out there, there are some simple things you can do to equal or even surpass the stability and security claimed by Apple Heads.

1. Maintaining a current Anti-Virus on your machine and run scans at least once a month. In most cases you can use a free version of most like www.avg.com, www.avast.com, and www.free-av.com. Apple Heads will say " Well I don't need Anti-Virus". Good for you, and I guess you don't need the other 85% of the software out there either, LMAO...good argument!

2. Maintain a current Anti-Malware on your machine and runs scans at least once a month. There are excellent free versions out there. My personal favorite by an overwhelming recommendation is www.malwarebytes.org. there are others such as www.superanitspyware.com, www.adaware.com, and www.spybot.com to name a few.

3. Perform maintenance on your Registry!. If you are under the false impression/assumption that you have to reinstall a Windows OS to get that "just installed" speed. resist the temptation there are other alternatives! There are utilities out there and here is a great example of a little program for you to use www.ccleaner.com. It gives you the ability to safely clean the Registry of those annoying remnants of old unistalled programs, spyware, and malware left behind. These are the culprits that slow your machine down and create instability! 99.999% That's 5 9's of BOSD's are caused by registry errors.

4. And last but not least. Use "MSCONFIG" and turn off all those resource stealing programs that run in the background at startup! 99% of all that garbage does not need to run until you actually open the application. Yes it will start up slower, but ask yourself would you rather have something you rarely use start up slow or have your whole machine run slow all of the time? It's a no brainer.

So with this enlightenment and information you don't have to be an "Apple Head". Being a Mac user is like being a Harley owner. When you look at the facts, you really look silly and you are just being trendy.

bike analogies for computing. cool. pretty far from right, but cool none the less. color me in red for apple head.

you're absolutely right about being lazy mac users though. like, why open the  gate 20 times just to make sure it will open ? build it right, and know it will. done. next.

security ? ok, go run scans, check your dll's, know what the latest attack scenario is by text message from your 'source' in cisco (pretty cool actually) or whatever. i'll just wait for a software update, maybe it's a rebooot kind, but likely not. sigh, no drama. sorry

if i'm ever accused of being 'trendy' for having a slew of macs, i'll buy your a moca-frappa-crappa-whatevera-cino graaaaaaaaanday and pronounce myself queerer than $3 bills on ducks.

guess i'm getting lazy again, the rest i'll just leave up to you.

(i'm not bashing, it's too late and this tea is waaaay to tasty to bash anyone)