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Ignition Advance performance gain?

Started by gregvhen, February 06, 2010, 09:35:43 PM

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Have you noticed...

more power/pull after a 5* advance
4 (50%)
better fuel economy after 5* advance
0 (0%)
nothing at all after 5* advance
1 (12.5%)
easier starting after 5*
0 (0%)
harder starting after 5*
0 (0%)
other positive change after 5*
0 (0%)
other negative change after 5*
0 (0%)
I have more/less than 5* and will post my experience
3 (37.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

gregvhen


kylegod

what did the old vance and hines advancer do?
'98 GS500E
'94 Honda XR250L

gregvhen


black and silver twin

Quote from: gregvhen on February 07, 2010, 12:20:16 PM
Quote from: kylegod on February 06, 2010, 09:55:59 PM
what did the old vance and hines advancer do?

bump same question

no idea but there unavailable now anyway. I do know it was a simple hardware change though so nothing fancy. advancing your timing is easy:

1. remove timing cover
2. remove pickup coil
3. remove rotor
4. remove plate
5. grind holes in the plate so the plate can be rotated 5* (4mm aprox.) counter-clockwise
6. install every thing back

I actually dyno tuned mine last summer with varying amounts of timing. and the bottom line was, on regular gas with V&H exhaust, lunchbox, and carbs already dynotuned, +5* is safe and gives around 2whp at peak(9800ish rpms)and over 3whp above 10000rpm. plus more power everywhere else and smoother idle/low-rpm-riding and a small MPG increase.

I settled on +6* with colder plugs and 13:1afr, but im sure with alittle more fuel I could add another degree or two for another 1/2whp.

and finally with stock internals, the gs just didnt like mid-grade or premium gas. it rode fine and felt just as fast but it made less power on the dyno. It made the most power on regular gas with +6* timing, even mid-grade with +8 degrees made less.
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

ineedanap

#4
Vance and Hines is 5 degrees.  

Nice job on the tuning and dyno info.   :thumb:
My 90 GS500E has spread itself across the nation.

tt_four

I have one on my bike, and to be honest I still don't even understand what the thing does...  :dunno_white:

O.C.D.

You should allow multiple selections as there are more than one options I have experienced.

I noticed better low-end, better lugging in lower rpm's, better acceleration, less drivetrain backlash, etc.

I am glad I did it.
'92-'09 Suzati
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black and silver twin

Quote from: tt_four on February 08, 2010, 07:08:20 AM
I have one on my bike, and to be honest I still don't even understand what the thing does...  :dunno_white:

It advances the ignition timing by 5* over stock. this yeilds more power, more torque, less bogging, less vibration, and potentially better MPG. the improvement becomes more noticeable when more mods are done.
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

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