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wtf happened, how do i repair this // halp

Started by kisner33, May 08, 2010, 09:55:46 PM

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kisner33

man i really hate this being my first post, but i literally was just accepted to the board;

so, i came home 20 minutes ago to find my bike looking a little odd ::::



my brother said he wanted to ride the bike around the culdesac and said that my "handlebar was loose" so he decided to unscrew that thing and he lost the nut (yes i know that's not how to tighten the handlebars :P)...realllly pissed, but i assume it's a simple fix?

what's this called? where can i go to get a new nut?

Elijafir

Unless I'm mistaken, that is a Fork Bolt that you are missing.  They are $32 from bikebandit.com (for the '95.)  Didn't know what year yours was.  I would highly suggest a  "no touchy" rule from now on.  And "persuade" your brother to figure out what happened to the one that goes in there. 
If you go on the bike bandit site you can get schematics for just about any part on our bikes.  Good luck.
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GSnoober

Look at this diagram:

http://images.powersportsnetwork.com/fiche/images/SUZUKI/2004/Motorcycles/7247_44A.gif

You seem to be missing number 22 and number 23; they are listed as:

22  CAP      51351-01DD0  approx. $35 - $40 each at the dealership

and

23  O RING   51117-01DD0  approx. $3 each at the dealership.

I don't know where you got those clip-ons; they aren't from a GS500, but that really doesn't matter. Just out of curiosity, I'm wondering why your brother decided to REMOVE something if he actually wanted to TIGHTEN the handlebar? Whatever, just don't let him play near traffic, or you could end up short one brother pretty quickly...

Good luck with this; before you spend the money, you might want to go out and look for the missing cap, which would save your brother about $40. I doubt your local dealer will have it in stock, so you'll probably have to wait for it. Once you've got the new cap and o-ring installed, you'll have to reposition the fork leg to match the other side, then tighten everything properly. Lastly, do NOT ride the GS until you've got this fixed... you've been warned.

Post pics when you fix it, so we can make sure everything looks kosher. Spilled fork oil will probably end up on the brakes or tire sooner or later, and you'll be dealing with a lot more problems than you have now.

Elijafir

Okay, bike bandit has it listed as:
20-2: BOLT,FORK    504530-001    $31.97
21: O RING     502875-001    $1.90
(again, that's for a '95)  I think those are the Suzuki part numbers on there..
Good luck. hope you get it fixed.
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mister

#4
kisner33,

I'm not going to answer your question. Because, as far as I see it, it doesn't require an answer. Because....

What you do is.... you take your bike to a Suzuki Dealer and say "Hey, fix this will ya" and then you give the bill to your brother. He stuffed it, he pays for a professional to fix it properly.

AND.... have quite a few swear words to go with the bill. Make sure you cover things like... NOT farkn touching your farkn stuff without your farkn permission. He not being a farkn motorcycle mechanic and knowing shaZam!. And NOT, under any circumstances whatso-farkn-ever, to make ANY farkn adjustment because it could have catastrophic effects ending in your crashing. Man... "pissed" would not be anywhere near to describing my feelings to the violation of my property and to the jeopardizing of my safety.

*I* am mad at your brother. And it ain't even my bike  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Okay....

Centering my zen...

All better now...

Michael
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Elijafir

Quote from: mister on May 09, 2010, 12:59:28 AM
kisner33,

I'm not going to answer your question. Because, as far as I see it, it doesn't require an answer. Because....

What you do is.... you take your bike to a Suzuki Dealer and say "Hey, fix this will ya" and then you give the bill to your brother. He stuffed it, he pays for a professional to fix it properly.

AND.... have quite a few swear words to go with the bill. Make sure you cover things like... NOT farkn touching your farkn stuff without your farkn permission. He not being a farkn motorcycle mechanic and knowing shaZam!. And NOT, under any circumstances whatso-farkn-ever, to make ANY farkn adjustment because it could have catastrophic effects ending in your crashing. Man... "pissed" would not be anywhere near to describing my feelings to the violation of my property and to the jeopardizing of my safety.

*I* am mad at your brother. And it ain't even my bike  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Okay....

Centering my zen...

All better now...

Michael

+1 ... What if he had managed to find that piece and  "put it back together" without you knowing about it.  A motorcycle is not a toy and you can die faster than you can imagine.  I hope your brother learns a lesson from this, that doesn't involve  you dying because your bike didn't handle properly.
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scratch

How do you lose a fork tube cap?!  And, why is the fork tube so far up the triple?  And, is your axle bent now?
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DoD#i

#7
Scratch, that's the stock spring spacer poking up. I think somone's brother gets to buy some sonic springs as well as new fork caps, o-rings and fork oil.

I've had a pair for sale for months. Yours look a bit different (hex head poking up, rather than the square hole going in)



$35 shipped in US for the pair. $65 for your brother, who damn well ought to be footing this bill. Aluminum, new in bag, genuine Suzuki parts, no o-rings with them.

Despite the benefit to me of moving these things out of my box-o-parts, I think the "brother gets to pay for a shop to fix his idiocy" approach is probably a better one, IF you have a shop that's worth crap. Good motorcycle mechanics can be rather hard to find, I find, so I do nearly all work myself.
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The Buddha

The new type is aluminum, old type (on in the pic from dod #1) is steel. be careful of cross threading especially with the spring tension.
Anyway, I think subbing the old for new is OK, and I may have one you can have for say $5 and $5 mail. Just for stupidity prolly ,make your bro donate $5 to gstwin.
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DoD#i

#9
Quote from: The Buddha on May 09, 2010, 07:19:13 AM
The new type is aluminum, old type (on in the pic from dod #1) is steel.

Nope, those are aluminum. The ones in my 1990 are steel.
1990 GS500EL - with moderately-ugly paintjob.
1982 XJ650LJ -  off the road for slow repairs
AGATT - All Gear All The Time
"Ride a motorcycle.  Save Gas, Oil, Rubber, Steel, Aluminum, Parking Spaces, The Environment, and Money.  Plus, you get to wear all the leather you want!"
(from DoD#296)

GSnoober

Just to clarify some points from my earlier post:

ONE: The schematic I linked to is for the 2004 and later models, as you can see if you read the URL. I used that year because I see the top of the oil cooler, which older "E" models don't have.

TWO: Do NOT do business with bikebandit.com; they ARE bandits. Their prices can usually be beaten with a little searching, and they don't deserve your business until that changes.

THREE: You can find the GS500 parts schematics and REASONABLE prices at other websites, such as mrcycles.com. YES, I've done business with them, and YES, their prices are lower than the bandits charge. Apparently, Elijafir posted his first reply while I was researching the SUZUKI part numbers. After my first reply to you, Elijafir then posted the BIKEBANDIT part numbers, which are NOT the same as the Suzuki numbers; do NOT use the bikebandit numbers to order the parts, because they aren't actually SUZUKI part numbers. If you're going to pay higher prices for the parts anyway, you might as support your local dealership.

FOUR: Do all of us a favor, and sh|tcan that pathetic "carbon fiber" cover from the steering head. If it is scratched and ugly, paint the stupid thing; that plastic cover is ugly as hell, and it isn't fooling ANYONE into thinking that your GS500 has anything made from carbon fiber bolted to it.

FIVE: As has been mentioned, make your brother find the original parts, or make him pay for the new ones. This is HIS expense, not yours. If one of MY brothers had done this, I'd kick his ass for being so stupid, but that's just me...

Lastly, I'm glad to see so many others advising you here; you're getting good advice, so I hope you learn from it.

Suzuki Stevo

#11
Do you have the spring?
EDIT: Opps, thought that was the stanchion tube sticking up.
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Elijafir

Quote from: GSnoober on May 09, 2010, 07:44:47 AM
THREE: You can find the GS500 parts schematics and REASONABLE prices at other websites, such as mrcycles.com. YES, I've done business with them, and YES, their prices are lower than the bandits charge. Apparently, Elijafir posted his first reply while I was researching the SUZUKI part numbers. After my first reply to you, Elijafir then posted the BIKEBANDIT part numbers, which are NOT the same as the Suzuki numbers; do NOT use the bikebandit numbers to order the parts, because they aren't actually SUZUKI part numbers. If you're going to pay higher prices for the parts anyway, you might as support your local dealership.

Wow, I'm sorry.  I didn't mean to offend you.  I have had nothing but good experiences with bike bandit.  I think their prices are reasonable (certainly cheaper than any of my local stealerships.)  I wasn't aware that they are "bandits" as you suggest.  I wasn't aware their part numbers are not actual Suzuki part numbers, consider that when I order  parts from them they are indeed Genuine Suzuki Parts.  I'm sorry I posted some info from an E model (which is what I have set up for the site, since that is what I have) when "clearly" the bike we are dealing with here is an F model.
I'm sorry for my ignorant attempt to help out. Please disregard any information I posted.  Have a nice day.
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jeremy_nash

#13
Quote from: GSnoober on May 09, 2010, 07:44:47 AM

FOUR: Do all of us a favor, and sh|tcan that pathetic "carbon fiber" cover from the steering head. If it is scratched and ugly, paint the stupid thing; that plastic cover is ugly as hell, and it isn't fooling ANYONE into thinking that your GS500 has anything made from carbon fiber bolted to it.

glad to see you are so opinionated and think you know whats better for someone elses bike.  the carbon fiber onerlay is there to cover up the 2 holes that bolt the top plate to the upper triple.  I would vote leave it, as who would take something off their motorcycle cause someone on the internet doesn't like it?
and also, because he didnt ask your opinion on that
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gregvhen

i wanna know where you got that carbon fiber graphic cover on your top triple

gregvhen

Quote from: scratch on May 09, 2010, 03:10:39 AM
How do you lose a fork tube cap?!  And, why is the fork tube so far up the triple?  And, is your axle bent now?

The fork isnt up on the triple, your seeing the spacer inside the fork popped up from the spring that looks like the fork

kisner33

thanks for all the replies guys

i ended up going through bikebandit only because i want the parts ASAP and every other site only had standard shipping options.  hopefully they're not as bad as some are saying >.>

as for beating my brothers ass, i gladly would have 3 months ago but i have a pretty bad tendon injury via armbar and he'd probably come out on top ;[  he's agreed to pay for everything and never touch my shaZam! again without me being present. 

as far as the carbon fiber plastic stick on ugly-ass pos thing, i know it looks like shaZam!...the dude who had the bike before me put it on and i'll take it off as soon as i get around to getting to buying some paint.  whoever, cosmetics are the least of my worries until i get the bike completely safe to ride!

scratch

#17
Quote from: DoD#i on May 09, 2010, 06:54:52 AM
Scratch, that's the stock spring spacer poking up.

Oh...whoops, that's what I get for posting before looking.

Quote from: gregvhen on May 09, 2010, 07:06:50 PM
The fork isnt up on the triple, your seeing the spacer inside the fork popped up from the spring that looks like the fork

Thanks  :embarrassed:, I still want to know if the axle is bent.
The motorcycle is no longer the hobby, the skill has become the hobby.

Power does not compare to skill.  What good is power without the skill to use it?

QuoteOriginally posted by Wintermute on BayAreaRidersForum.com
good judgement trumps good skills every time.

kisner33

after ordering a new cap, of course i find the old one by accident about 30 yards away outside my garage.

so, my new question :: what's the easiest way to go about unloading the front suspension without having a centerstand? will i have to remove the fairings also to do so?  i'm open to any ghetto way possible that will work without damaging the bike in any way.

Paulcet

Pair of jackstands under the frame.  Tie-down straps under the top of the frame, tied to the rafters of the garage or a sturdy step ladder (someone here has done the ladder thing and posted pics!)

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