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Anyone have a 15, 14, or even 13 tooth front sprocket that they dont want?

Started by gregvhen, May 09, 2010, 07:01:40 PM

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gregvhen

I put a 45 in the back but still want some more torque since i never ride highways anyway.  If anyone has any size down from the stock front sprocket, preferably 14 but ill take anything, shoot me a price shipped to st. louis MO 63123

XealotX

13 tooth sprocket? Why not just look for one of these?



I am speaking (as usual) out of ignorance here but it seems to me that a 13 tooth sprocket would be hard on the motorcycle...either through increased vibration, wear on the chain... :dunno_black:
"Personally, I'm hung like a horse.   A small horse.  OK, a seahorse, but, dammit, a horse nonetheless!" -- Caffeine

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gregvhen

yea, no it wouldnt. not as long as the rider isnt a complete moron.  Like i said i would rather have the 14, but id take a 13 if its cheap.  i just wouldnt be able to ride much faster than what a stock bike rides in 3rd gear haha.

EDIT: Also, if someone has a 14 or 15, i can send you a $10 bike bandit gift card.

tt_four

just for reference, I just removed my 47t rear chainring, and also have a 14t front. The bike topped out at 95mph, and at cruising speeds the rpms were roughly 1 lower than the mphs, meaning if I was going 50mph, it was revving at 6k rpm, if I was going 30mph, it was revving at 4k rpm. When I put the 39t back on the rear I dropped 1500rpm for any given cruising speed and was like gaining a whole gear+, plus at one random moment of speed I had on the highway I was up to 110(indicated) and still had a bit of rpms to go. It was cool for riding around city streets, but anything over 40mph was just not much fun anymore. It'd be cool if you really want to go fast on some back roads, but I'm more into taking it easy at this point.

sledge

Quote from: XealotX on May 09, 2010, 07:10:19 PM
I am speaking (as usual) out of ignorance here but it seems to me that a 13 tooth sprocket would be hard on the motorcycle...either through increased vibration, wear on the chain... :dunno_black:

Correct  :thumb:

Search: "Chordal action chains"

jeremy_nash

good luck  I had a 12 tooth front, and 42 rear for about a week.  was running like 7500 rpms doin 55!  have fun!  are you wanting to stunt it or something?  which would be cool, as everybody likes stunts!
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gregvhen

Quote from: jeremy_nash on May 10, 2010, 07:38:59 AM
good luck  I had a 12 tooth front, and 42 rear for about a week.  was running like 7500 rpms doin 55!  have fun!  are you wanting to stunt it or something?  which would be cool, as everybody likes stunts!

yep!   :thumb: kinda, not actually go full blown stunt bike, i just want some power wheelies, and a like the torque gain from my 45 in back, but would like some more since like i said, i dont ride highways anyway

joshr08

you are not going to power wheelie with the gs with a 14/45 setup.  i have a 14/45 setup and other then a bit more torque its still a 500cc turd.  you need to go alot bigger on the rear if you want to power wheelie.
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jeremy_nash

with 12 and 42 I could power wheelie, but by the time it came up, it was time to shift, never got anywhere near the balance point
gsxr shock
katana FE
99 katana front rim swap
vapor gauge cluster
14 tooth sprocket
95 on an 89 frame
lunchbox
V&H ssr2 muffler
jetted carbs
150-70-17 pilot road rear
120-70-17 sportmax front
sv650 rear wheel
sv650 tail swap
gsxr pegs
GP shift

tt_four

yeah, seriously when I had 14/47 I had to dump the clutch as hard as I could, and the bike still didn't really get to the balance point, just high enough for me to ride it a few seconds and have it fall back down. I know I know, "you're not doing it right!", but I was, because I used to do them all the time on my other bike, so I knew how to get a bike up and ride it out, but the GS just wasn't putting out. If you want to really play on it you're probably gonna have to put a foot on one of the passenger pegs to move your weight back.

gregvhen

Quote from: joshr08 on May 10, 2010, 04:02:11 PM
you are not going to power wheelie with the gs with a 14/45 setup.  i have a 14/45 setup and other then a bit more torque its still a 500cc turd.  you need to go alot bigger on the rear if you want to power wheelie.

um....turd.....what are you 12? if so you must be a really huge 12 year old to not be able to power wheelie a 14 45 setup. seeing as how im 18 and can power wheelie my 16-45 setup on occasion. soooo...... no i dont need a pizza pan in the back to do so. i weigh about 130 before you ask.  and please, if anyone else wants to be a duck, go talk on another forum please

gregvhen

Quote from: tt_four on May 10, 2010, 08:08:05 PM
yeah, seriously when I had 14/47 I had to dump the clutch as hard as I could, and the bike still didn't really get to the balance point, just high enough for me to ride it a few seconds and have it fall back down. I know I know, "you're not doing it right!", but I was, because I used to do them all the time on my other bike, so I knew how to get a bike up and ride it out, but the GS just wasn't putting out. If you want to really play on it you're probably gonna have to put a foot on one of the passenger pegs to move your weight back.

yea, i do use the passenger pegs for standing wheelies, and im able to power up sometimes if i hit it just right and ride out in my balance point, but i can clutch up okay sitting down. just harder to hit the balance point. and ive learned when to shift to 2nd once im balanced, but its tough, thats why im lookin for a smaller front sprocket. im just thinkin, if im able to sometimes power up with a 16-45, then i should for sure be able to power up everytime with a 14-45, and make my cluctch up, sit downs, much easier.

XealotX

Quote from: gregvhen on May 10, 2010, 08:15:07 PM
um....turd.....what are you 12? if so you must be a really huge 12 year old to not be able to power wheelie a 14 45 setup. seeing as how im 18 and can power wheelie my 16-45 setup on occasion. soooo...... no i dont need a pizza pan in the back to do so. i weigh about 130 before you ask.  and please, if anyone else wants to be a duck, go talk on another forum please

I do not understand the source of your irritation. What do you define a "power wheelie" as? I've seen 600CC Kawasaki Ninja's doing 70mph down the interstate and pulling wheelies at that speed...that would be my definition of a power wheelie. I don't think there is any gearing setup in the world that will make a GS5 do the same thing.
"Personally, I'm hung like a horse.   A small horse.  OK, a seahorse, but, dammit, a horse nonetheless!" -- Caffeine

"Okay. You people sit tight, hold the fort and keep the home fires burning. And if we're not back by dawn... call the president." -- Jack Burton

gregvhen

a power wheelie is just when you get into a wheelie without using the clutch.  this is basically impossible for a GS or even ninja 600 to do at 70 mph, but 1,000's can do em pretty easily and 70+ mph

gregvhen

yall thought i was crazy for wanting a 13? haha well i just ordered a 12 off ebay. 8 bucks, so i had to.  ill just change out sprockets when i want to wheelie and when i want to cruise. ill post pics in a new thread when it comes in.

Toogoofy317

Ahhh, it's okay for you to be a smarta$$ in other people's threads  but can't handle it when other's reciprocate. Typical teenager.


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sledge

Did you look up Chordal action and see what effect reducing the number of teeth on the sprocket has??

Ask your teacher about it and what effect it will have on your chain :D

http://chain-guide.com/basics/2-2-1-chordal-action.html

skudman

Quote from: sledge on May 11, 2010, 01:27:01 AM
Did you look up Chordal action and see what effect reducing the number of teeth on the sprocket has??

Ask your teacher about it and what effect it will have on your chain :D

http://chain-guide.com/basics/2-2-1-chordal-action.html

nice read   :thumb:

tt_four

Haha, aside from changing sprockets when you want to wheelie, do you have another GS you swap out when you want a bike that isn't going to self distruct?? I love wheelies and goofing around, but the GS doesn't really have the goods to handle it. Even if you changing the gearing you're gonna destroy the cheap components inside that engine.

I would personally consider a "power wheelie"  to be one where you do nothing but twist the throttle and have the front end come up. Definitely no clutch, and I don't really consider standing up to bounce the bike a "power" wheelie, it's questionable whether it still counts as one if you're accelerating, let off the throttle to compress the forks and twist the throttle again, since you're not using power and the springs on your fork. As far as a ninja 600 doing them at 70mph. Probably not if you're still sitting down and not using the clutch, but I could get my Triumph speed four to stand up with no clutch at 90mph, so a ninja would definitely stand up at 70. I had to stand up to get it to do it, but still, had a bit less power than other 600s that came out in 2003 when my bike did. I wouldn't be surprised if a current 600 could lift the front wheel in 2nd with the rider sitting down and not using the clutch, but I've never tried it, so I can't say.

gregvhen

Quote from: Toogoofy317 on May 10, 2010, 10:51:03 PM
Ahhh, it's okay for you to be a smarta$$ in other people's threads  but can't handle it when other's reciprocate. Typical teenager.




please, show me where i was a smart a$$ in another thread, so i can appoligize, cause right now i really dont know when i made a smartas$ comment.

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