Rape at the BMV!

[XLAR8]

i got my bike brand new so the dealer paid for my rego....

so rego in queensland is $241.50AU for 1 year... not to bad

[Cosimo_Zaretti]

In developed countries you go to an office and prepay your bribes.  When the cops pull you over you have all the paperwork to show you've already paid.  In some countries you can get fleeced every time you encounter a cop, or you could finish up ahead.  At least with a set annual bribe you can budget around it, and everyone has to pay the same. 

[GreggSells]

That's a cheery way to think about it.

[BadgerBiker]

Gotta love the UK for this sorta thing - when i brought my GS500 (In a Used and Abused condition) All i had to pay to transfer the paperwork was.... wait for it... £0.00. Yup, Nothing. Zero. Zip.

Ok, so we have to pay a yearly 'Road Tax' of £50 (For a 500cc), and a yearly MoT to check its roadworthy (£30), and insurance... and fuel...

That total of £80 is like $130 (US) per year.  Hard to say if thats better or worse than paying high one time title transfer and sales tax and then small yearly registration fees.  If you keep your bike for a long time I'd say we got it slightly better here, but I don't know many people who hold onto bikes for more than a few years. 

Also after learning that misrepresenting the sale price on a title could be a felony I'll probably just own up and pay full tax. But I still won't be happy about it

[TCARZ]

In MN there is just the sales tax & title transfer fees when you buy the bike, and after that it's just the registration tax each year, which is only $14.50 per year regardless of year/make/model.  It's pretty sweet I can register 5 motorcycles for less than the cost to register a car each year.

Sheez, Mike! Not so loud.... 

Hope it stays that way, when the politicians are through with their cutting & taxing. 

A fellow Minnesotan 

[GreggSells]

All the red tape makes me think twice about buying a project bike anytime soon. I want a 70's CB750, but I'm thinking the title-work involved in getting it legal after restoring it would be a nightmare...

[Big Rich]

All the red tape makes me think twice about buying a project bike anytime soon. I want an 70's CB750, but I'm thinking the title-work involved in getting it legal after restoring it would be a nightmare...

What makes you think that? If it has a clean title before you restore it, it'll be clean after you restore it too.

[GreggSells]

What makes you think that? If it has a clean title before you restore it, it'll be clean after you restore it too.

I'm just assuming it will be hard to find a cheap barnyard-beauty with a clean title. The restoration process has nothing to do with it. I think my wording was confusing.

[dohabee]

Until a couple years ago in texas you were only taxes on the price you paid for the vehicle. I guess they got tited of everybody buying $100 cars so they changed it. Now they don't care what you paid the tax is either the selling price or not less than 80% of the assumed value.
what sucks is that the value they use is higher than kbb and comes from some state database.
Also if you buy a pos non running bike you have to pay an authorized party about $300 to sign a form stating the actual value otherwise you are still taxed on the assumed value.

[Paulcet]

Guess I like how Georgia does it (older vehicles anyway), they assess a really low value and the rate isn't too bad. I think I paid less than $30 last year.

The only bad thing is that the expiration date is your birthday.  So it's "Happy birthday! Pay up."

[aygee]

Gotta love the UK for this sorta thing - when i brought my GS500 (In a Used and Abused condition) All i had to pay to transfer the paperwork was.... wait for it... £0.00. Yup, Nothing. Zero. Zip.

Ok, so we have to pay a yearly 'Road Tax' of £50 (For a 500cc), and a yearly MoT to check its roadworthy (£30), and insurance... and fuel...

That total of £80 is like $130 (US) per year.  Hard to say if thats better or worse than paying high one time title transfer and sales tax and then small yearly registration fees.  If you keep your bike for a long time I'd say we got it slightly better here, but I don't know many people who hold onto bikes for more than a few years. 

Also after learning that misrepresenting the sale price on a title could be a felony I'll probably just own up and pay full tax. But I still won't be happy about it

Thats only road tax (now called vehicle excise duty - so they don't have to spend the money raised on repairing the roads!) and MOT, there's then insurance to buy - which is mandatory and can cost anything from <£100 to £1000 depending on age/experience etc.
My first GS (10 years ago) cost me just shy of £800 to insure for 1 year, the new one I got to commute has just cost me £89.36 and that is with no No Claims Bonus (which you gain for having insurance without claiming on an annual basis and reduces the cost of the premium by upto 50%) as my motorcycle NCB - 10 years worth! - entitlement is tied up on the big bikes insurance.

Insurance prices for young riders/drivers can be upward of £3000 for the first year! 

[mister]

i got my bike brand new so the dealer paid for my rego....

so rego in queensland is $241.50AU for 1 year... not to bad

Rego in Queensland for a two seat bike is $400 a year. Single seat rego is $219. Dealer prices on rego are whatever they say it is at the time as long as their numbers work in the end for them. If the dealer quoted you $241 he was probably quoting special dealer rates or some such. I kow cause both my bikes just had their rego done - one Jan, one Mar - and these are the current prices including the Compulsory Third Party Insurance.

Michael