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Adjustable Levers - finally solved with LSL Levers

Started by adidasguy, May 16, 2011, 03:53:02 PM

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adidasguy

I thought it best to do a new thread now that stock adjustable levers are found (rather than clogging up older threads).
The LSL brand levers are a stock item. Unfortunately, you have to order them from Europe or Australia as the USA distributor for LSL does not carry ANY LSL levers for ANY Suzuki bike and they emailed me that they won't.
Here are these beauties.
Part numbers: 200-L03SW for clutch (kupplungshebel L03)
                   200-R17SW for brake (bremshebel R17)



Brake Installed


Clutch installed, before boot and adjustments. (Blemish on handle is grease)


Clutch - all done and cleaned off


Remember - these are a stock item. No alterations required at all. Direct replacement.
Love that German engineering!

jeffdodge


Paulcet

Nice! Thanks for going out on a limb to let us know what works and what doesn't.  :cheers:

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adidasguy

Got in another set for Junior.
You can order on-line from:  www.hesa-motorsport.de
http://www.hesa-motorsport.de/shop/catalog/adjustable-brake-and-clutch-levers-for-suzuki-gs-500-bandit-600650-07-p-2311.html
You email them for instructions on paying with credit card or paypal.
So there's where to get them. 168 euros for the set and 40 euros for express shipping. I'd suggest a few people go together for an order. You might get a discount and would share the shipping.
There is an Australian dealer that carries them but they never got back to me on shipping. Check the LSL web site for distributors in your country. Speigler in the USA refuses to carry any LSL levers for any Suzuki model - but carry them for a couple other brands. Hopefully LSL will get them to carry the Suzuki levers.
In a way I like ASV better (price about the same) but they don't have a clutch lever (do have brake lever) where the LSL are a direct replacement for all GS500 models 1989 to present for clutch and brake.

ghostrider_23

I am not trying to be rude, I just want to understand the main difference between the LSL and stock.

What is the purpose behind replacing the levers???

Color, grip style, or the ability to take the slack out and adjust the levers?

adidasguy

#6
The shape of the levers gives a different feel. Like the seat - you like one that fits you for a more comfortable ride.
The look is really cool. Love how the levers look - really spiffs up the bike.
Adjustable levers are nice when you ride in different weather: thick or thin gloves and it helps to adjust the levers in or out for the different thickness.
If you do let someone else ride your bike, they can adjust the levers to fit their hands.
One friend rode one of my bikes and commented on how much better the feel of the levers were to his hands.
Kind of why some people like short levers verses long levers.

I guess I should also add that the high quality levers are easier to adjust. You can flick the adjuster while riding. The stock type adjustable lever you have to pull out, turn the knob then release. There is no stock adjustable clutch lever. Adjustable clutch is not really for slack - its to fit your hand. Sometimes the hands just get a little tired or cramped and adjusting the levers while riding can make a big difference.

It is all personal preference.

ben2go

Nice levers.  :thumb:

The only thing that is a problem with adjustable clutch levers, is the clutch cable and clutch rod clearance.It has to be kept in adjustment,if the levers are adjust to be close to the bars.Over time the clutch wears and the cable stretches.Then you find that the clutch seems to stick when the lever is pulled in.After a while,the clutch won't release when the lever is adjusted close to the bars.Just imagine pulling in the clutch lever and the bike keeps going.All this is really a non issue if the maintenance is kept up on the bike.
PICS are GONE never TO return.

adidasguy

With the adjustable clutch lever, it only changes the lever part. The base that attaches to the cable stays like normal and you adjust the clutch like normal. Adjusting the lever part does not change the clutch adjustment - it only changes the angle of the part you have your fingers on. Think of it as the end of your clutch lever getting bent in or out a little - the pivot point where the cable attaches doesn't change.

The advantage of this is if you have big hands you can adjust the lever out and small hands or thick gloves, you can adjust it in a little so you can easily use the clutch.

Same as the adjustable brake lever - it just adjusts the position of the lever and does not change the braking.

ben2go

Quote from: adidasguy on May 20, 2011, 09:20:20 PM
With the adjustable clutch lever, it only changes the lever part. The base that attaches to the cable stays like normal and you adjust the clutch like normal. Adjusting the lever part does not change the clutch adjustment - it only changes the angle of the part you have your fingers on. Think of it as the end of your clutch lever getting bent in or out a little - the pivot point where the cable attaches doesn't change.

The advantage of this is if you have big hands you can adjust the lever out and small hands or thick gloves, you can adjust it in a little so you can easily use the clutch.

Same as the adjustable brake lever - it just adjusts the position of the lever and does not change the braking.

Yes.But when the levers are adjusted close to the bars,there is not as much stroke left in the lever.
PICS are GONE never TO return.

adidasguy

#10
Well, then I guess you don't like adjustable brake levers for the same reason.
It is all preference. If you don't want adjustable levers, then you don't have to get them. I like them, find them cool looking, have a better feel and smoother feel than stock levers (better machining at the pivot point) and find it handy to adjust them and you don't. So nothing more to say on the issue.
I provided info for those that do.
I'm now officially staying out of this thread and issue for ever. I am really not in to discussing the pros and cons of adjustable levers. I got them because I like them. I rode Junior today 20 minutes and back from aurora Suzuki to pick up bearings for Trey and for the Suzuki Owners Club monthly meeting. The LSL levers really felt nice. Smooth operation.

The rest of you are more than welcome to continue discussing the merits of them.

As I said, I am simply passing on information about what I found as a really good, direct replacement lever, which has been an issue many others have been wondering about.

werase643

#11
i don't mean to be rude ....but hey what the heck
208 euros equals .....295 dollars   294.74 actually
you got to be frigging kiddin me

dang thing has to have a hooker attached to it for that price
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

sledge

Quote from: ben2go on May 20, 2011, 08:31:46 PM
Nice levers.  :thumb:

The only thing that is a problem with adjustable clutch levers, is the clutch cable and clutch rod clearance.It has to be kept in adjustment

Just like the stock ones  :thumb:

Suzuki Stevo

Quote from: werase643 on May 21, 2011, 12:49:25 PM
i don't mean to be rude ....but hey what the heck
208 euros equals .....295 dollars   294.74 actually
you got to be frigging kiddin me

dang thing has to have a hooker attached to it for that price

Agreed...
An OEM Adjustable Front Brake Lever is $61.16 @ BikeBandit (the 05" DL650 fits) having an adjustable clutch lever makes more sense for a Hydraulic Clutch, it is nice to have options though...and for that I say  :thumb:



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adidasguy

Yea Steve, the OEM's are cheaper and I have a few of those around (and now a couple ASV's in the parts box). You can get after market ones even cheaper (brake only, no adjustable clutch lever availadbe)
Adjustable levers are handy - especially when jumping from one bike to another - you can quickly adjust the feel to what you're familiar with. When the other guys ride one of mine, they can adjust the levers the way they want them.

But the high end levers just look so freaking cool!

And they are easy to adjust while riding and just have a nicer feel to them.

Its the same with everything - different styles and prices for grips, lights, turn signals, TV's, computers......  You buy what you like and can afford.

wundersitz

Quote from: adidasguy on May 16, 2011, 03:53:02 PM
I thought it best to do a new thread now that stock adjustable levers are found (rather than clogging up older threads).
The LSL brand levers are a stock item. Unfortunately, you have to order them from Europe or Australia as the USA distributor for LSL does not carry ANY LSL levers for ANY Suzuki bike and they emailed me that they won't.
Here are these beauties.
Part numbers: 200-L03SW for clutch (kupplungshebel L03)
                    200-R17SW for brake (bremshebel R17)
Remember - these are a stock item. No alterations required at all. Direct replacement.
Love that German engineering!

FINALLY!!! Ive been searching bloody everywhere and asking everyone for this!!  Can I ask if these fit a 2009 GS500???  Also you mention the Aussie distributor...can you recall who that is/was?  Im downunder

Thanks, you are a champ!!

cheers

Daniel

Stanfield

You spent $300 on levers for a GS?  I'm honestly speechless.  I put 2 finger adjustable levers on my gsxr that were only $75 a piece and I had a hard time justifying that.

adidasguy

You can get  a current list of distributors from the LSL web site.
I had to order direct from Germany because the US distributor for LSL would not carry ANY of the LSL levers for ANY Suzuki bike.

slipperymongoose

Those look great I might have to get a set for my beast.
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

wundersitz

Quote from: Stanfield on September 17, 2011, 08:14:08 AM
You spent $300 on levers for a GS?  I'm honestly speechless.  I put 2 finger adjustable levers on my gsxr that were only $75 a piece and I had a hard time justifying that.

Cool!   :thumb: If you can find me an adjustable clutch and brake lever for a 2009 GS500 I would be appreciative....but I dont think you will   :embarassed:

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