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Available ground wire near the instrument cluster?

Started by usdtmcs1, July 22, 2011, 09:47:02 AM

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usdtmcs1

Is anyone aware of an available ground near the instrument cluster?  I installed the diode kit from Kuryakyn (solved my LED turn signal issue BTW) but it requires an additional ground.  I ran a wire all the way back to the battery for this in the interim, but I'd love to find an available ground up at the front to make it a cleaner install.  I'm on a 2006 500F. 

numus

Should be able to ground off any black with white strips wire...
2006 GSX600F (Katana) - Ananke

ben2go

or directly under any bolt/nut with metal contact underneath.
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numus

I am not familiar with this diode kit, but i replaced my thermal relay with an electronic relay.. required a 3rd pin grounded so i just ran a wire to the negative terminal on the battery. Since the relay is stored under the right fairing it was a simple short wire run.
2006 GSX600F (Katana) - Ananke

DoD#i

Most of the US bikes have an uncommitted (it's for a Europe-spec light) brown & black/white set in the headlight shell (or wherever F models hide it, I suppose, if they use the same colors.) The black/white is ground.
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numus

Quote from: DoD#i on July 22, 2011, 11:39:34 AM
Most of the US bikes have an uncommitted (it's for a Europe-spec light) brown & black/white set in the headlight shell (or wherever F models hide it, I suppose, if they use the same colors.) The black/white is ground.
Forgot about that one
http://electricwiringdiagram.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wiring-diagram-schematic-suzuki-gs500e-motorcycle.jpg
It is labeled "Side light" on the diagram... Also apperently there is a random ground wire hanging out around the turn relay... i haven't found that wire on my bike but never really went looking for it.
2006 GSX600F (Katana) - Ananke

adidasguy

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Quote from: DoD#i on July 22, 2011, 11:39:34 AM
Most of the US bikes have an uncommitted (it's for a Europe-spec light) brown & black/white set in the headlight shell (or wherever F models hide it, I suppose, if they use the same colors.) The black/white is ground.
It is connected on the "F" - its the lower running light in the headlight triangle. (Wedge base bulb so you can replace it with an LED really easy, which I've done.) I've bought European headlamps for Junior and Trey which has the added running light and connected it up.

Not sure what you're doing with diodes for turn signals. Unless you're using a polarized LED for the turn signal indicator. Use a non-polarized LED and it is a direct replacement - no wiring changes. A cooler thing to do is reorganize your instrument lights. Have one for left and one for right. Then drill an extra hole in the mounting bracket for whatever indicator you sacrificed - like move the neutral to the space between the tach and speedo.

Just looked that up - they charge $8 for a couple 10 cent diodes? A couple 1n4001's and a little wire is all that is.
(Wiring is a specialty of mine - been wiring stuff since I was a kid. See photos of how I've farkled up Suzi. Replaced indicators with LEDs on a few bikes. Just use a non-pilarized LED for the turn signal. Also, as a suggestion, get an LED of the same color as the plastic cap. It makes for a richer color. White LEDs tend to wash out the color. Different types of LEDs have different brightness. Just as light bulbs have different wattages, LEDs have different brightness. )

numus

Quote from: adidasguy on July 22, 2011, 12:15:41 PM
Quote from: DoD#i on July 22, 2011, 11:39:34 AM
Most of the US bikes have an uncommitted (it's for a Europe-spec light) brown & black/white set in the headlight shell (or wherever F models hide it, I suppose, if they use the same colors.) The black/white is ground.
It is connected on the "F" - its the lower running light in the headlight triangle. (Wedge base bulb so you can replace it with an LED really easy, which I've done.) I've bought European headlamps for Junior and Trey which has the added running light and connected it up.

Not sure what you're doing with diodes for turn signals. Unless you're using a polarized LED for the turn signal indicator. Use a non-polarized LED and it is a direct replacement - no wiring changes. A cooler thing to do is reorganize your instrument lights. Have one for left and one for right. Then drill an extra hole in the mounting bracket for whatever indicator you sacrificed - like move the neutral to the space between the tach and speedo.

Just looked that up - they charge $8 for a couple 10 cent diodes? A couple 1n4001's and a little wire is all that is.
(Wiring is a specialty of mine - been wiring stuff since I was a kid. See photos of how I've farkled up Suzi. Replaced indicators with LEDs on a few bikes. Just use a non-pilarized LED for the turn signal. Also, as a suggestion, get an LED of the same color as the plastic cap. It makes for a richer color. White LEDs tend to wash out the color. Different types of LEDs have different brightness. Just as light bulbs have different wattages, LEDs have different brightness. )
Speaking of which.. my tach light burned out.. keep forgetting to replace it...
Any recommendation on how to tighten up the gauge cluster? Mine is kinda loose. (96 GS500E)
2006 GSX600F (Katana) - Ananke

adidasguy

Quote from: numus on July 22, 2011, 12:37:36 PM
Speaking of which.. my tach light burned out.. keep forgetting to replace it...
Any recommendation on how to tighten up the gauge cluster? Mine is kinda loose. (96 GS500E)
LEDs work for instruments. Different ones with different beam angles make a difference. I'll post some suggestions soon or maybe put together a kit of all the LEDs needed (if there is any interest).
As for loose gauges, most are. All I've done is add a couple rubber washers on the back to hold them in better. The cap nuts make it hard to get things really tight. Too tight and the mountings might break due to all the vibration.

usdtmcs1

Quote from: adidasguy on July 22, 2011, 12:15:41 PM
Quote from: DoD#i on July 22, 2011, 11:39:34 AM
Most of the US bikes have an uncommitted (it's for a Europe-spec light) brown & black/white set in the headlight shell (or wherever F models hide it, I suppose, if they use the same colors.) The black/white is ground.
It is connected on the "F" - its the lower running light in the headlight triangle. (Wedge base bulb so you can replace it with an LED really easy, which I've done.) I've bought European headlamps for Junior and Trey which has the added running light and connected it up.

Not sure what you're doing with diodes for turn signals. Unless you're using a polarized LED for the turn signal indicator. Use a non-polarized LED and it is a direct replacement - no wiring changes. A cooler thing to do is reorganize your instrument lights. Have one for left and one for right. Then drill an extra hole in the mounting bracket for whatever indicator you sacrificed - like move the neutral to the space between the tach and speedo.

Just looked that up - they charge $8 for a couple 10 cent diodes? A couple 1n4001's and a little wire is all that is.
(Wiring is a specialty of mine - been wiring stuff since I was a kid. See photos of how I've farkled up Suzi. Replaced indicators with LEDs on a few bikes. Just use a non-pilarized LED for the turn signal. Also, as a suggestion, get an LED of the same color as the plastic cap. It makes for a richer color. White LEDs tend to wash out the color. Different types of LEDs have different brightness. Just as light bulbs have different wattages, LEDs have different brightness. )
The PO of my bike installed a set of LED turn signals and left the original front incandescent bulbs attached to provide the necessary resistance.  I removed those (so they aren't flashing inside of the fairings where he left them tucked in.)  The diode was recommedned by other users to circumvent the single wire issue at the trun signal indicator which apparently casued the LED turn signals to not flash properly.  All I know is that it worked for me and it was well worth $7.

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