So far NOT so good :)

[Tombstones81]

Finally replaced the little O rings in the top of the carbs after that shoddy garage messed my bike up.

Ran a lil better but still a lil putterin at low speeds when just cruisin along.
but good enough to bring it down to my new apt finally.

Got bored later on yesterday.
After even more reading on Air/fuel mixture screws, I went out to mess with mine a bit. (since the garage drilled the caps out )

Seen a bunch of ppl saying after a rejet they did 3 turns out.
Since mine is still stock until I put the new jets in, did 2.75 turns out.

Took it for a lil spin and WOW!
like a totally different bike then when it was acting up.
otw bringin to my house on the highway, the carb was vibrating to hell! or whatever else in that area.
after messin with the air/fuel screw...
Smooth as hell
no more putterin at cruisin speed or anything now

Still need to replace the petcock tho.
2 out of 3 settings bog out.

hopefully it comes in the mail tomorrow so I can do that along with the rejet.

now to relax!!!
just got back from finally being able to go for a LONGGGGGG ride
Havnt been able to enjoy a ride like that in prolly over a month

Now if only payday would hurry the heck up!
Want my new tank and plastics!

[Tombstones81]

Got bored again, so I finally swapped the headlight buckets.

old one got slightly cracked and bent in my wipe months ago.

Looks alot better in chrome now

before (Old pic before I even had the bike on the road)


new bucket


2 more for the hell of it lol
since everyone on here loves pics

also the last pics I took were before my wipe and when my digital camera worked ><
pics sorta suck from my phone.

Since then, new chrome handlebars, bar end mirrors and new levers.
now to wait for my new tank & plastics as thank god my phones camera sucks because those specific parts look Terrible! well mostly on the other side hahaha

[ReverseTrike]

Nice bike. Looks like mine but my frame is gun metal color with the tank and plastics being black.

[Tombstones81]

tnx but only nice in the pics.
paint from PO is total garbage up close.

but!
I spoke WAYYYY too soon....
bike acted the same as before multiple times today even on Prime (only setting that worked)

did the rejet.

meanwhile opened up the petcock to see why it could possibly be broken or causing problems.

only thing that looked to be causing a problem is the rubber inside the back of the petcock.
I dunno how to fully describe it as im pretty fed up after riding like 30 miles on a bike putterin worse and runnin slower then a POS 50cc scooter!
so my heads not here atm haha

but around the rubber is a lil ripped in places.

not sure what kind of problems that can cause as I'm not sure the entire purpose of that breather hose on the stock petcock. or whatever its called. aka the only one that doesnt have fuel goin thru it.

But I got that http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56352.0 petcock otw that should be here in a few days.

and if that doesnt fix anything.

I'm Really darn close to just savin what I can and sellin this POS and just getting something that isnt going to suck my wallet dry so much.
Coulda just bought a brand new GS500 instead and put 3/4 of the total cost of the bike down if I had all the money I wasted buyin and repairing this crap.

Not to mention wasted $250 on a garage visit that messed more up then before and did what me and a friend did in a few mere hours and More tonight!

[Big Rich]

T-stone, what's the bike actually doing? Running lean at higher rpm's?

[Tombstones81]

Im kind of stumped on that question.

Garage said it seemed to be running Rich weeks ago when I took it to em.

Friend who has been working on it for and with me who knows more said its running lean by the whiteness of the plugs.

but its pretty much Boggin out.
Backfiring pretty loud on the throttle.
and eventually starts running on 1 cyl.

after getting it back from the garage and wasting $250.
they had it set on Prime (I thought it was Res)
but it pretty much only ran normal now and then on Prime.
On and Reserve would bog out.

which is why I think its a petcock problem.

Me, the garage and my friend have been over the carbs thru and thru.

Nothing seems to be off enough to be causing such problems.
they have been cleaned, inspected, adjusted, rebuilt and after tonight, rejetted.

So if the petcock doesnt fix the prblem.
The only thing we havnt replaced or messed with are the Floats.

[Big Rich]

I want to say you're probably running lean at the higher rpm's. Is the bike popping with a little surge of power then flats out, only to keep popping/surging? That would be lean.

If you are absolutely certain it's getting enough gas (proper main jets, no vacuum problem with the petcock/tank) then it could be your intake valves aren't allowing enough mix in, you have a weak spark at high rpm's, or a clogged vacuum at the carbs. Check the hose(s) for the carb vacuum- there should be 2 of them going either to the bottom of the engine or to the air box. Make sure they aren't clogged or melted. With the fuel off, take the float bowls off (one at a time for this). Push the float up with your finger and turn the fuel on. Let the float drop and be prepared to get gas everywhere.......then check your float height properly. Not to sound like a jerk, but you know how to check it properly, right? Carbs off the bike, at an angle, from the gasket surface, etc?

Try putting in larger mains (2 sizes larger than what you have now). Run the petcock on prime, and open your gas cap for a short WOT run.

[Tombstones81]

I want to say you're probably running lean at the higher rpm's. Is the bike popping with a little surge of power then flats out, only to keep popping/surging? That would be lean.

Bingo.
sorry I tend to post before my head clears when I have problems.
but yeah, surge of power when I open the throttle.. POP POP Zooom! haha and then Put put put pppput POP! put put hahahaha

float height appeared fine, didnt have a hose to be totally Flush with the drain tho. (floats are next to get attention after the petcock replacement)

none of the lines are pinched, clogged, melted etc.
but yes, if changing the petcock clears it up completely.
Then I plan to get ALL new hoses for everything on the carbs and fuel lines.

actually back on the floats...
the garage did install my rebuild kit.
so I would think if they were messed up or needed tweaking, they wouldnt of missed or not done it.
But still a possible problem

(edit)
and opening the choke did nothing.
it did this before on Run and Res.
Now Run and Res just goes and bogs out.
thing even stalled completely on me otw home when I switch it to Run while it was acting up.

Prime WAS fine, but that doesnt appear to be the case anymore.

just hope that petcock clears it all up.

also rejetted the mains tonight with 127 or 127.5 I forget and my friend ordered them for me as he needed some for his dirt bike.
it was stock 122.5
also got 130 if the 127 isnt enough.

(edit again)
seriously considering goin to see if I can get a small $2500 to $3000 loan with my car as collateral tho.
and start lookin for an SV650 that needs absolutely NO work!
was my first choice as far as naked sport bikes go but after finding out tonight that its Fuel Injected... MMmmmmm!

didnt buy a bike to do this all year and its reallyyyyy taking its toll already.
we'll see how the new petcock goes first.
Might just be the last nail in its coffin.

[crzydood17]

the rubber inside the petcock would most likely be the vacuum diaphragm, Time to replace

[ben2go]

When you replace the petcock,make sure to block off the vacuum line that runs to the carb.If the carb sucks air in through there things will get much worse.If the rejet and float levels don't help then I would suspect an ignition problem.Probably dead coil if it's only popping on one side.If it's popping on both,it's either the CDI or crank triggers/pickups.

[Tombstones81]

When you replace the petcock,make sure to block off the vacuum line that runs to the carb.If the carb sucks air in through there things will get much worse.If the rejet and float levels don't help then I would suspect an ignition problem.Probably dead coil if it's only popping on one side.If it's popping on both,it's either the CDI or crank triggers/pickups.

thanks for the suggestions
but after google searching your other suggestions, It doesnt appear to be electrical or the crank trigger.

All the symptoms so far has been fuel related.

even when it acts up its giving a clear indication to be a fuel problem. aka carb or petcock.

and yea its the vacuum diaphragm that is partially ripped, I just couldnt remember the name of it.

and the petcock should be arriving no later then Thurs
tracking shows it arrived and left Philadelphia Pa 4am this morning.
and im just like 2 or 3 hrs north of Philly.

but if this doesnt fix it.
my next stop is to a bank to see about a loan to start lookin for something else.

[adidasguy]

If you want to know if the fuel tap (what people often call the petcock but the manual says fuel tap valve) is bad, just connect the fuel line directly to the main or reserve on the tank (close off the other outlet) and go riding.

The fuel tap valve: in the PRIME position, there is a clear, direct flow from the reserve input to the output. Should be easy to remove hoses and blow air through there to be sure it is clear. (I've been taking those things apart lately while watching Family Guy at night to determine what and why the fuel tap aka petcocks are different between Trey and Junior.)

If the tank has been coated, it could be the petcock in the tank is getting clogged up. That's east to know: turn off the tank. Run the 2 fuel lines from the tank into a gas can (use any extra hose for this brief test). Turn on the tank and does gas freely flow out of both hoses? If not - problem INSIDE the tank.

I have found surgical clamps really handy for pinching off arteries (aka fuel lines) while working on them. Couple bucks each at a hardware store.

[Tombstones81]

If you want to know if the fuel tap (what people often call the petcock but the manual says fuel tap valve) is bad, just connect the fuel line directly to the main or reserve on the tank (close off the other outlet) and go riding.

The fuel tap valve: in the PRIME position, there is a clear, direct flow from the reserve input to the output. Should be easy to remove hoses and blow air through there to be sure it is clear. (I've been taking those things apart lately while watching Family Guy at night to determine what and why the fuel tap aka petcocks are different between Trey and Junior.)

If the tank has been coated, it could be the petcock in the tank is getting clogged up. That's east to know: turn off the tank. Run the 2 fuel lines from the tank into a gas can (use any extra hose for this brief test). Turn on the tank and does gas freely flow out of both hoses? If not - problem INSIDE the tank.

I have found surgical clamps really handy for pinching off arteries (aka fuel lines) while working on them. Couple bucks each at a hardware store.

tank petcock is fine.
I put on some clear lines that I thought were the right ones but they werent.
and fuel flowed very nicely from the tank, from both outlets.
so theres no blockage or anything from that.

after taking the petcock apart last night, did see a lil bit of dirt in it but nothing clogging it.
but the vacuum diaphragm being ripped in a few spots is what got me thinkin its fouled and is the problem.
tho I dont know the exact purpose of it.

but if the new petcock fix's the problem, plan to empty and  flush out the gas tank just to be safe.
also replace every single hose having to do with the air and fuel.

[adidasguy]

Since the diaphragm is really a fuel valve, a hole would mean the vacuum from the carbs is sucking in some gas through the holes. Might even do that when on PRIME (won't know until I do more dissecting of those little buggers). If that happens, is it possible it would eventually bog down one of the carbs? (Doesn't that vacuum connect to only the left carb? Might be wrong about that.)

Try bypassing it for a ride and see what happens. Pinch off the vacuum. Run a fuel line directly from the tank, bypassing that little guy, and see if you run OK. (Remember to pinch off the other fuel line from the tank).

[Tombstones81]

Since the diaphragm is really a fuel valve, a hole would mean the vacuum from the carbs is sucking in some gas through the holes. Might even do that when on PRIME (won't know until I do more dissecting of those little buggers). If that happens, is it possible it would eventually bog down one of the carbs? (Doesn't that vacuum connect to only the left carb? Might be wrong about that.)

Try bypassing it for a ride and see what happens. Pinch off the vacuum. Run a fuel line directly from the tank, bypassing that little guy, and see if you run OK. (Remember to pinch off the other fuel line from the tank).

it connects to the right side of the carb.

yea I shoulda tried that awhile ago, bypassing the petcock u mean?

but since the new one will arrive most likely tomorrow.
Its a waste of time doing it right now as even if it isnt the problem (the petcock), I still plan to put the new one on and leave it on.

(edit)
bah! im actually really tempted to go try that too now (bypass the petcock)
but it can wait until most likely tomorrow or possibly thursday.

its 7pm and will be getting dark soon and i dont wanna be fiddling in the dark after taking the bike for a nice long warm up ride to see.

also been off for my 4th night now and actually havnt had a day to just sit and relax so far.
so im doing just that today

[ben2go]

It just dawned on me that we have all be looking at the possible problem the whole time.I even had it happen to me and failed to recognize the symptoms.You clearly stated that the petcock diaphragm is torn.That would allow the vacuum line to suck just enough extra fuel in to the carb to cause all these issues.Jeez I feel like a dumb shat now.The petcock should help clear the issue,but I would have fresh plugs on hand, and change them after all of the other work is done.They're cheap and it will eliminate them as being fowled.

[Tombstones81]

yep.
getting fresh plugs when I get paid Friday.
broke due to moving and petcock and O ring set not being billed soon after purchase.

money came out almost a week later! I did my $ figuring thinking it already came out.
So I overspent my weekly budget

among other reasons too.

[ben2go]

yep.
getting fresh plugs when I get paid Friday.
broke due to moving and petcock and O ring set not being billed soon after purchase.

money came out almost a week later! I did my $ figuring thinking it already came out.
So I overspent my weekly budget

among other reasons too.

I hope the late draft wasn't for to much money.I though I had close to an extra $1500 in the bank one time.Never dawned on me that the loan I paid off a month earlier hadn't draft the money.Luckily I checked my account before I made a rather spendy purchase,and saw the error.

[Tombstones81]

nah the total between the petcock and O ring set was only $60 and I had plenty in there.
It just took from what I save for the 2nd week after payday (get paid every 2 weeks ><)
only hurt cause I thought it was already out

add in rent paid for previous location.
and then rent for moving in here. (like a 3 day notice on moving. was asked, hey theres an extra bedroom here, wanna move? sure) haha
then having to pay my cable bill early to get cable here.
then money paid back to my dad for borrowing some for the garage visit...
+ $40 per fill up in the car because I cant ride my bike to work and save like $40 to $80 in a 2 week period.
oh yeah, and the like 5 to 8 trips between my old place and here with my car.
add in another extra $80 to $120 for all the gas use.

really shoulda trouble shooted more before wasting $ at that garage ><

but because of all that, I gotta wait even longer to get a new tank & plastics for my bike... if the dang thing will ever run right anytime SOON! haha

one thing always blows up into causing alot more hell, which is why this little bike craps got me so flamin mad. haha

[Tombstones81]

new petcock installed  

now to go for a ride and see if it acts up (crosses fingers)

oh yeah
i didnt know there was another breather hose on the INSIDE of the other carb.
it wasnt capped off.
I thought it woulda been on the outside of the otherside like the right side.

but both are capped off and new petcock installed.

now to hit the road. (crosses fingers again! haha)