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Started by Neptonic, October 14, 2011, 07:43:02 AM

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Neptonic

I pretty much stock GS with some minor additions like a yoshi pipe and K&N filter. I was wondering what other adjustments can be done to a GS to improve HP and how much HP will it add?

I guess what is the best case HP output  can you have with a GS?

Cheers.

cbrfxr67

GStwin.com sticker adds 25hp.  At least that's what Buddha told me,.....
"Its something you take apart in 2-3 days and takes 10 years to go back together."
-buddha

Dr.McNinja

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Quote from: Neptonic on October 14, 2011, 07:43:02 AM
I pretty much stock GS with some minor additions like a yoshi pipe and K&N filter. I was wondering what other adjustments can be done to a GS to improve HP and how much HP will it add?

I guess what is the best case HP output  can you have with a GS?

Cheers.

Full exhaust pipe gives something to the order of like 5 bhp. Better air filter will bring you up to ninja 500 horsepower when combined with it. Other than that, shaving off weight will give you more ponies but eventually the only thing you'll be able to do is bore/port & polish.

You're not going to squeeze much more ponies out of anything without tons of money.

ghostrider_23

K&N air cleaner
Exhaust
Rejet CArbs
Spockets
Timing advancer
Good plugs & wires
Octane boost
Shave the weight

and most importantly learning to ride right

my $0.02

reload

power is displacement/compression/fuel. i dont really count fuel cause that's fixed for most people, not like you're going to get race fuel or anything...i think lol.

so most of the little stuff you do is just fine tuning to get the most out of your engine or improving the power to weight ration.

NorwayGT1

how does a sprocket add hp??? and 500 hp ninja... whaaaaa   :o ??? where can i get one of those lol  :D

Dr.McNinja

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Quote from: ghostrider_23 on October 14, 2011, 08:14:50 AM
K&N air cleaner
Exhaust
Rejet CArbs
Spockets
Timing advancer
Good plugs & wires
Octane boost
Shave the weight

and most importantly learning to ride right

my $0.02

The only way a sprocket will give you more HP is if you shaved off a TON of weight swapping it with some sort of lightweight space-age material one.

Sprockets are purely for acceleration. Acceleration != horsepower.


Quote from: NorwayGT1 on October 14, 2011, 08:49:12 AM
how does a sprocket add hp??? and 500 hp ninja... whaaaaa   :o ??? where can i get one of those lol  :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Ninja_500R

I'd start with learning to read.

gsJack

Exhaust, intake, and jet mods will yield about 4 HP more, about 10% increase.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/AnniesGS500dynoRun-1.jpg

Way back in the middle ages when the GS500 was first born V&H modified a GS with their exhaust system plus intake and carb mods plus displacement increase to 555cc and did some porting work and only claimed a 10% power and torque increase, doubt you'll do much better than that.  The V&H GS did match the EX500 (Ninja) performance.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/GS500tests.jpg
407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

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fraze11

This post should have some info in it.  There's tonnes of posts and thoughts on this topic;

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=57855.0

2009 GS500F, 2003 CBR F4i

jmelchio

Although there is no real scientific proof I'm pretty sure that a custom paint job with flames adds about 25hp. Dressing up real fancy will gain you another 10hp. On the downside, you insurance premiums will increase as well.  ;)
2006 Suzuki GS500F
2008 BMW F800ST




sledge

5 Mins of time and the removal/refitting of just two bolts can give you an instant 75hp increase if its done right.

Using the correct tools simply remove the GS500 from your license plate, then fit a GSXR600 to it instead........what could be easier  :woohoo:

mister

Quote from: Neptonic on October 14, 2011, 07:43:02 AM
I pretty much stock GS with some minor additions like a yoshi pipe and K&N filter. I was wondering what other adjustments can be done to a GS to improve HP and how much HP will it add?

I guess what is the best case HP output  can you have with a GS?

Cheers.

Putting GSXR decals on it makes the squidies Think it's a GSXR5. That alone is like adding 80 horsepower right thar.

When you add milk in the handlebars you get an additional 5hp. Put it cannot be powdered milk. Remember, no powedered milk in the handlebars.

Rearsets will add another 2 ponies. LED speedo/tacho lights another 1hp as you then have extra electricity to use.

But the easiest way is to swap out the motor for something that will make you wet. Cause with the GS500, if you Really want more HP, then trade the bike in for something with more HP to begin with. Stop expecting the GS to be something it isn't and your desire for more HP magically goes away.

Oh. almost forgot... telling your bike you luuuuv it adds 12 HP, as measured on a dyno. But the effect wears off so you got to tell it daily  :thumb: :thumb:

Michael
GS Picture Game - Lists of Completed Challenges & Current Challenge http://tinyurl.com/GS500PictureGame and http://tinyurl.com/GS500PictureGameList2

GS500 Round Aust Relay http://tinyurl.com/GS500RoundAustRelay

Neptonic

This is why I love this group. Great ideas and great laughs!

I think I'll explore the sticker idea and rejetting. Maybe upgrade the sprockets.

Just looking for something to do over the winter.

Can anyone suggest a good place to get the rejetting done in the Toronto area. closer to the east end would be preferred.

Thanks


mister

Quote from: Neptonic on October 15, 2011, 01:09:31 PM
Maybe upgrade the sprockets.

Just looking for something to do over the winter.


Sprockets just gives you the Illusion of HP. But, that's what matters... the Illusion.

If you want something to do over winter... how about move to somewhere where you can Ride all through winter  :dunno_black: :thumb: :thumb:

:icon_mrgreen:

Michael
GS Picture Game - Lists of Completed Challenges & Current Challenge http://tinyurl.com/GS500PictureGame and http://tinyurl.com/GS500PictureGameList2

GS500 Round Aust Relay http://tinyurl.com/GS500RoundAustRelay

slipperymongoose

If your gonna sink money into your bike, make it handle better, nothing like pushing the bars over through a sweeping 's' bend while maintaining a relativly high corner speed. Plus if you read and search the forum IMO ppl seem to have issues when they re jet the bike and get it wrong. Plus your range decreases for the sake of a couple of hp.
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

Big Rich

Nepronic, if you do decide to re-jet, make sure it's after any intake/exhaust upgrades. May as well only do it once. Buddha can sell you a jet kit, and I highly recommend doing it yourself. It takes about 2-3 hours if you have never done it before and you will become familiar with your carbs. Plus, some shops charge an INSANE amount to do carb work.
83 GR650 (riding / rolling project)

It's opener there in the wide open air...

hawaiianGS

Quote from: cbrfxr67 on October 14, 2011, 08:03:12 AM
GStwin.com sticker adds 25hp.  At least that's what Buddha told me,.....

That almost made me spill my beer laughing.  :cheers:
If you can feel the wind in your hair... you need to put a helmet on.

slipperymongoose

Has anyone successfully put NOS on a GS? Just by way of asking? It's totally illegal down here on the street but America seems to be more relaxed on it.
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

Big Rich

To my understanding, NOS doesn't work well/at all on carbs. But I've also never researched it personally.

I have however, seen an early 80's Suzuki GS1000 (or 1100?) that had been hard tailed with a 300 rear tire and a turbo charger.........
83 GR650 (riding / rolling project)

It's opener there in the wide open air...

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