Pods with factory jets

NorwayGT1 · October 20, 2011, 06:29:37 PM

soo i got my pods from china today and they actually looked bad ass lol..
I popped them in just to see what all the fuss was about, and i didnt notice anything wrong with the way my bike was running if anything it sounded better and seemed more responsive. Im running the stock jets by the way

Any thoughts?? cuz im a little confused considering everyone that i spoke to including the almighty gs overlord budah (lol jk) said that they bike just wont run right......
did i just get lucky? if sooooo

Big Rich · October 20, 2011, 07:02:23 PM

Jetting can be a tricky thing sometimes. There are a LOT of variables that need figured in. While your bike may seem to run "good" right now, I can almost guarantee it will run better after putting in new jets.

Dr.McNinja · October 20, 2011, 08:07:05 PM

Quote from: NorwayGT1 on October 20, 2011, 06:29:37 PM
soo i got my pods from china today and they actually looked bad ass lol..
I popped them in just to see what all the fuss was about, and i didnt notice anything wrong with the way my bike was running if anything it sounded better and seemed more responsive. Im running the stock jets by the way

Any thoughts?? cuz im a little confused considering everyone that i spoke to including the almighty gs overlord budah (lol jk) said that they bike just wont run right......
did i just get lucky? if sooooo

A bike thats running super lean will still run. Your engine will just get all kinds of screwed up. Idle at a light for a little bit and youll find your bike is WAY hotter.

NorwayGT1 · October 20, 2011, 08:22:26 PM

well like i said earlier the bike runs almost exactly the same, the only difference is that it has more carb noise and is slightly more responsive.
correct me if im wrong but if the bike was running lean it would show signs like sputtering, low idle, and i would be having a hard time going from first to second and so on.

I have not experienced any of these, i havent adjusted anything since i put the pods in the bike is exactly the same as it was with the air box that came with it.
my air screw is set to "one turn instead of two or three like most guys that i have read on here.."

Also what are some signs that i should look out for if there are problems with my bike?

thanks as always!

Dr.McNinja · October 20, 2011, 09:19:31 PM

Quote from: NorwayGT1 on October 20, 2011, 08:22:26 PM
well like i said earlier the bike runs almost exactly the same, the only difference is that it has more carb noise and is slightly more responsive.
correct me if im wrong but if the bike was running lean it would show signs like sputtering, low idle, and i would be having a hard time going from first to second and so on.

I have not experienced any of these, i havent adjusted anything since i put the pods in the bike is exactly the same as it was with the air box that came with it.
my air screw is set to "one turn instead of two or three like most guys that i have read on here.."

Also what are some signs that i should look out for if there are problems with my bike?

thanks as always!

No, if it was lean any range of things could happen. These bikes are very cold blooded to begin with.

1.) It will run VERY hot over a short period of time (simplest test)
2.) The spark plugs will be white/light grey
3.) You'll get some backfire, especially on deceleration where you snap the throttle shut and coast
4.) Your bike MAY surge, and how bad it's surging could be the "response" you're feeling.

You'll want to monitor your bike very carefully. Pods breathe incredibly well (maybe not better than K&N pods but still) compared to the stock airbox + restrictor.

Even if you don't notice anything now, down the road you could easily toast your pistons. The rule of thumb is if you have to be a little rich or lean stay rich. There aren't much dangers to a rich bike except lowered fuel efficiency and poor functioning. On the other hand a lean bike will usually run fine - until you burn a hole in a piston or warp your pipe.

NorwayGT1 · October 20, 2011, 09:31:59 PM

what do you mean by surge? an will check my spark plugs in the morning just to make sure they are not as you described man.

Do you guys know of a good way to measure how hot the bike gets? like electric thermostat something you would find in a car or etc...

Big Rich · October 20, 2011, 09:53:26 PM

A surge in acceleration. It will feel like a littel pop of speed. Where about are you located (first guess would be Norway......).

Generally, a lean engine will feel a little "flat" at certain rpm's. And if you dont know any better, it feels ok. But do a plug chop to make sure.

More importantly, why not just re-jet?

birdhandler · October 20, 2011, 10:05:50 PM

you can get tempertaure gauges with aftermarket gauges I got one for my vapour set the sensot sits on the spark plug

rkjjeep · October 21, 2011, 03:36:30 AM

are you sure the jetting is stock?

The Buddha · October 21, 2011, 09:22:23 AM

Pod in airbox or pod instead of airbox ?

And what year of bike ?

Your air screw set to 1, somehting on your carbs is very very different. 1 turn and most gs'es will not even run. They will run wfo, if you can ever get em started. I can only imagine - your float is worn very high. That can compensate for a lot of lean jetting.

Cool.
Buddha.

NorwayGT1 · October 21, 2011, 10:39:41 AM

alright where to start.. um well im from Norway, but i live in South Carolina now.
I am not positive that the jetting is stock, but considering the kid that i bought the bike from didn't take care of it what so ever.. i would say its bone stock lol
how would i check that? i didn't see any numbers on the jets, plus i drilled the air screws out my self. so i would take it that he didn't do anything to it.

and is there an option for just a separate gauge for heat, without drooping tons of money in to it.?

buddha the bike is 05, its pods instead of air box. I have adjusted and double checked the floats they seem fine. I have no problem starting the bike even on a cold day like yesterday! Had to use the choke for the first time though, but that's because it was freezing lol. it did the same yesterday with the factory air box so no dif there.

and whats a plug chop? lol sorry

The Buddha · October 21, 2011, 12:24:46 PM

SC ? What part - that part that is by charlotte ? Cos I am there ...

The jets with no numbers ... cant be stock or aftermarket ... you need to look closer ... somewhere there is numbers.

Pipe is almost like a cork in the wine bottle ... maybe you have stumbled upon the secret to jetting wiht K&N and stock pipe.
Its never been acheived cos no one has tried the stock ...

... BTW its lean I can tell, it is right now in NC/SC dry as a bone and not yet cold, aka this is the time of year it can be leanest and survive.

1 turn on mix screw is seriously off ... you have something different.

Cool.
Buddha.

NorwayGT1 · October 21, 2011, 12:34:04 PM

Im in charleston man, goosecreek to be exact! if you ever want to meet up plz let me know lol i would love for a pro to test drive my bike and tell me exactly what my next step should be!

and it was in the 50 or lower last night when i drove the bike, but im not saying your wrong! I should have posted that this is my first bike and im learning as i go lol!
But i do have good mechanical skills (not a mechanic) but i have work on my own cars since i could barely see over the hood lol

Ill strip everything apart again, an try to see if i can find some numbers for you! im in the proses of repainting everything so it prolly wont be until tomorrow or if i have the time ill do it tonight

(by the way they are not k&n pods, but pods that i ordered from china they are a bit smaller and i believe that they dont take in as much air as the k&n ones do so it has some restrictions.. not sure about this though! But i will take pics and update this as soon as i can man

The Buddha · October 21, 2011, 01:02:05 PM

Pics of the pods please. They are mesh and cloth like they use for bandages - which is the K&N style to a T. Or is it a different type.
Yea and get the numbers.

Cool.
Buddha.

twinrat · October 21, 2011, 02:04:05 PM

your jets will probably be marked around the side thats how mine are when i got needle and jet kit from Factory Pro and they work very well .

NorwayGT1 · October 21, 2011, 06:24:54 PM

well def didnt have time today, ill break it down and document it in the am for you guys.

But its like you said buddah, they are mesh and cloth like material on the inside.. idk if you can clean these though.. forgot to ask the manufacturer, thats an email ill have to write and find out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180719214616?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

this is where i got em from, there is a pic of them.

NorwayGT1 · October 22, 2011, 01:02:36 PM

yo buddah so this is the deal... just broke down the carbs, and my main jet (the biggest one) is 130 (k.w or r.w hard to tell) the next one right below it is R.W 60, the smallest to the far left if you looking on the right carb is 17.5 or 12.5 also hard to tell.. but im almost positive its 17.5, and there is a square with a smaller square inside of it right beside the number. (i tried taking pictures but my camera just wouldnt pick up on the numbers lol)

Now would be a good time to mention that when i got the bike it came with only the headers and no muffler at all! It was cut off right where the muffler started...

If i understand correctly then my bike indeed is re jetted, i believe it comes with 125 from the factory? am i right?

also i adjusted my air screws to 2 turns out (i added one turn to my one original turn), and now im getting popping sounds coming out of my left carb.

someone tell me some good news here plz! cuz i done f%&ked my fresh paint up when i spilled gas on it as well as the vinyl.. and on top of that my new lights were broke during shipment (this is the second time, been waiting for 2 weeks) FML

rkjjeep · October 22, 2011, 06:26:38 PM

Looks like bone stock jetting, especially the 17.5 pilot.

The Buddha · October 23, 2011, 02:06:28 PM

Quote from: NorwayGT1 on October 21, 2011, 06:24:54 PM
well def didnt have time today, ill break it down and document it in the am for you guys.

But its like you said buddah, they are mesh and cloth like material on the inside.. idk if you can clean these though.. forgot to ask the manufacturer, thats an email ill have to write and find out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180719214616?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

this is where i got em from, there is a pic of them.

These things IMHO are trash. Been around 10+ years ... the end caps tend to fall off and the material disintegrates when you get gas on it.
I have them on the eli ... came wiht it, hated em. Cant go back to airbox the motor needs to come out for the airbox almost ... that bike is a PITA. Anyway I payed 20 each for K&N's for it.
Cool.
Buddha.

NorwayGT1 · October 23, 2011, 03:07:41 PM

cool good to know! was only 10 bucks so ill live lol

thanks buddah for all your help!

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