Bought a pdf version of the 1988-2010 GS500 manual. Can I share it?

[miander]

I bought a complete PDF version of Suzuki shop manual online. I know it was frustrating to find a copy for myself and would like to share it if possible.

Can someone LMK how and if it is legal?

Does anyone need it?

[Paulcet]

Is there a copyright notice in the first few pages? Probably. Then you can't legally share it. Even if you don't make money on it.

[twocool]

I bought a complete PDF version of Suzuki shop manual online. I know it was frustrating to find a copy for myself and would like to share it if possible.

Can someone LMK how and if it is legal?

Does anyone need it?

I would think that you don't want to share it on this group site.  If I remember correctly, some time back the nmoderators asked us not to share copyrighted material here.  Also they aske that we support the site by buying the Clymer manual from them on Amazon.

I heard on a Honda group that Honda actively protects their copyrighted material and will go after anybody who distributes illeagally...

Oddly enough, my online source for free Suzuki downloads has "magically" disappeared, at lest the suzuki pages are now blank? Hmmm...

Now, if someonw were to send you a personal e-mail, independent of this site.....?

Cookie

[miander]

I will look and see if there is any copyrighting at the begining BUT I do not remember seeing any. I bought it from an online vendor and it is not a official Suzuki manual however it is Suzuki content.

I would have bought the Clymer manual but the link did not work for me. I also have bouht the Haynes manual but it has yet to arrive.

Once I verify what I can and can not do with it I will go from there.

[XealotX]

I would be very surprised if you bought a legitimate copy of the shop manual and it didn't have a copyright notice.

[adidasguy]

Just because someone scanned it and sold it does not make it a legal copy.

I bought a legal copy of the Suzuki GS500 service manual. Yes, I could just as easily run it through my copier at work and generate a scanned PDF. Because I bought it and scanned it would not make it legal to distribute copies.

"Fair Use" can allow me to copy pages for my own use - not to give away or sell.

[codajastal]

I would be very surprised if you bought a legitimate copy of the shop manual and it didn't have a copyright notice.

I also have a copy of said PDF and I aggree that it may not be legit as it came from ebay on disk?

[twocool]

I would be very surprised if you bought a legitimate copy of the shop manual and it didn't have a copyright notice.

It does...one page 1


so does owner's manual....on second page aft cover....

The problem is that a chat group with website is easy target for litigation, so you cna't go offering copyrighted information there, "to the general public" if you will.

Now if my next door neighbor happened to have a manual, and he happened to "lend" it to me....there would be no way Suzuki could persue any legal action.

Bottom line...I f you want to be a nice guy, brave and honest and all that, just go buy your own copy and be done with it.

If your not so honest, and want a copy without paying...go ahead.....BUT JUST DON'T TELL ANYBODY!!!    Duh!

Cookie

[ohgood]

Copyright is bullshit, same as riaa/sopa/etc.

I will redistribute anything and everything I own if/when I want to. If the entire world shared information, the law suits would go away. No fear. Just don't make gstwins an easy target for the bloodsucking pos extortion artists.

[Lasse]

They're already all over the net, so no reason for you to do it and take that risk.

[seamax]

They're already all over the net, so no reason for you to do it and take that risk.

Yup, there are links to them on this forum also.

[adidasguy]

Copyright is bullshit, same as riaa/sopa/etc.

I will redistribute anything and everything I own if/when I want to. If the entire world shared information, the law suits would go away. No fear. Just don't make gstwins an easy target for the bloodsucking pos extortion artists.

So if you wrote a book, it is OK for someone to make unlimited copies and sell it? They make money and you don't? So then you would never make any money on your book? Or you spend months writing a computer program for something, say bowling league software, and you think it is OK for someone to freely distribute your program you spend months on and as a result you do not make a single penny on it?

People wonder why many software companies have gone under. Or why they have to charge for support and updates. All the bootlegging nas killed many good companies and programs. Believe me - I have seen it, being in the software industry myself.

Copyright laws have been around for a long time so the creator of the work can make some money on it. Without copyright protection, no one would make any money and that would result in no one making great movies, songs, books, art, or anything else creative.

I do disagree with their idea that I can't buy a song and put it onb my different devices. I'm not giving it away, just need it on my device for the car, one for the gym and so forth.

Copyright laws are a necessity. Anyone who feels they can take anything and give it away or sell it needs to have their home broken into and everything stolen. What's wrong with taking someone else's property?

I hope one day soon you create something and try to sell it. You'll go screaming the first time you find people giving away copies of it for free. "Boo hoo! How can I make any money after I put all that work into it if everyone is making copies of it?"

[Pontiackid73]

Copyright is bullshit, same as riaa/sopa/etc.

I will redistribute anything and everything I own if/when I want to. If the entire world shared information, the law suits would go away. No fear. Just don't make gstwins an easy target for the bloodsucking pos extortion artists.

Copyright laws is nothing like the  SOPA/PIPA etc Acts they have been trying to pass. A little research on the subject will show you that.

[miander]

I think people mistake my intentions. I bought a motorcycle and needed a Manual. I bought a PDF copy wich is supposed to be legal. If I can share it with others then I would like to do so as I was frustrated as all hell looking for specs.

There is a major loop hole in copywriting. If you obtain a legal copy in any country then it can be used all over the world. In Vietnam (I think) they have no copywriting laws. Meaning you can buy those expensive Textbooks from them legally and they are exact copy's of the original. However some bandit book manufacturer is who makes the money.

I could buy the copy delivered from Vietnam where it was reproduced legally and sell them here in the US. I am guessing that is what the seller did.

[adidasguy]

If you buy a bootleg copy in VietNam - it is still under copyright in the USA. So you bring it here - it is illegal. Same with going on a trip to China and bringing back a bunch of counterfeit shoes, bags and clothing. Illegal and can be confiscated by customs when you enter the country.

Just because you bought a PDF from someone does not make it a legal copy.

If that manual from tech-manuals is legitimate, then you're OK buying one. You still can not give away copies without permission of the copyright holder.

I sent them a message asking if it was a legal copy. We'll see. That they have indexed it and present the information in a different layout puts it into a different category as a derivative of an existing work. They may in fact be in the business of making searchable PDF's for the various companies. (That still would not allow you to give away copies.)

Frankly, I prefer a printed manual when working on my bikes. They get dirty enough.  hate to imaging the dirt that would get on a computer - or knocked off the bench or stepped on.

[Twisted]

Frankly, I prefer a printed manual when working on my bikes. They get dirty enough.  hate to imaging the dirt that would get on a computer - or knocked off the bench or stepped on.

You could just print the pages out you need with a PDF. Then it doesn't matter if they do get dirty.