Gun Owners?

[Kiwingenuity]

Ah Racoons - glad the worst we get here is possums trying to eat the native wildlife - at least possums have trouble getting into things (brushtail possum for the American members who may be confused the idea of a possum trying to eat bird eggs etc - I am sure the Opossum can get into things like rubbish bins just like a Racoon)

Just really glad we never imported fun things like Tasmanian devils or Wombats.. EDIT Or the dangerous dropbear..

Am sure 1000 fps .22 air will do the job quite nicely at a short range 

[adidasguy]

I had a surprise today. Last night I was testing and calibrating the scopes on a couple toys that just arrived due to that evel Amazon on-click ordering and Prime shipping (In Seattle, some stuff comes same day since they are based here.).

Well, reading literature from airgundepot.com, I read how someone took down a small deer with 3 shots from an air gun. Har to believe. ......until this morning.

I went to check the backstop I used for last night's testing. 4 layers cardboard. A comforter doubled over. Then 3/4" plywood --- so I don't put pellets into the side of the Bike Cave.

Well, there ARE pellets in the side of the bike cave.  Some of those suckers went through all that - including the plywood - and lodged in the bike cave wall.

I had no idea a pellet could be that powerful. Makes Airsoft guns seem like whiffleball.

Raccoons: I'm ready for you!

Until then, I need to make a better back stop for target practice.

[Badot]

Makes Airsoft guns seem like whiffleball.

Yeah, but when you shoot your friends it's better to do it with a whiffleball than a pellet 

[adidasguy]

I had a hell of a time trying to find some place local that would fill a CO2 tank or air tank for the Benjamin Marauder (a PCP gun).
Then I found the dive shop a couple blocks away can fill the 3000 psi Benjamin 72 cui tank for $5!. Now I can easily refill the rifle 6-8 times a tank fill. Getting another tank now.

Man - that gun at even 2000psi really shoots - like 1000 fps. Quiet, too and no recoil. Only sound is the pellet hidding the target.

The gun has a scuba tank adapter to refill it from that. The shop will have an abandoned tank May 1 I can get for a steal (someone left it there 6 months ago for hydro testing and never picked it up. Like a pawn shop - in 6 months it belongs to the shop and they can sell it.) So small tanks for on the road. Scuba tank for home practice or to do a partial refill of a small tank.

How about a gun/rifle rack for Suzi? Think that would be possible? Deer hunting on a DRZ-200? Scooter hunting? Cell phone user hunting? (that is too easy - every 3rd car is on the phone).

[kyled25]

any paintball store/field will fill c02 tanks as well if their are any of those that are closer than the scuba shop.

[Janx101]

Addy .... Couple of old thick phone books ... Bit of duct tape binding ... Enclosed in a mil rate on its side maybe for keeping the books on their edge ? ... Target away! ... If you worried about leakage still then an off cut of MDF board behind the books... Its high count small fibres should help absorb any remaining power.... Plyboard is a bit .. Brittle?

[Badot]

Addy .... Couple of old thick phone books ... Bit of duct tape binding ... Enclosed in a mil rate on its side maybe for keeping the books on their edge ? ... Target away! ... If you worried about leakage still then an off cut of MDF board behind the books... Its high count small fibres should help absorb any remaining power.... Plyboard is a bit .. Brittle?

I typically use a cardboard box with a metal plate in it, then a bunch of old newspaper or books in front of the plate... Plate stops any of them from ever having a chance at getting through, and the paper will stop any bounce back. Box holds it all together nicely.

[Janx101]

From my post .. Mil rate? ... FFS iPad!!! milk crate! ... And yes ... Anything with many many layers of thin paper will do the trick...

If you were really keen you could also wet the paper layers.... But then it's an outdoor target only ... Too drippy!!

[oldmech]

.22 caliber air rifle is pretty serious. some folks hunt with them for small game. should do the trick on your pesky raccoons!! get your self a few shoot and see targets. where you shoot changer colors. filled a ground hog full of pelets last year. he finally crawled off and died. and managed to knock a squirell off the fence post at 60 yards, little bugger was eating my rasberries! if all else fails 22 shorts in a bolt action can do the trick.subsonic and will do good with well placed shots..away from the bike cave.

[noworries]

Jazus Furgin H Krist..."he finally crawled off and died"...what is wrong with you Yanks!!!!!!! You'll get yours, mate......

[adidasguy]

.22 caliber air rifle is pretty serious. some folks hunt with them for small game. should do the trick on your pesky raccoons!! get your self a few shoot and see targets. where you shoot changer colors. filled a ground hog full of pellets last year.

Got the targets! Pretty cool. airgundepot or amazon is where I buy stuff. BOO! Amazon has the "same day delivery" for many things because they are based here in Seattle. I order WAY TOO MUCH stuff that way. Like going shopping only they deliver in a couple hours.

These are things are so quiet I am setting up a target range in the basement as well as outside. Got a lead on an "abandoned" scuba tank at a local shop for refilling the PCP rifle (Benjamin Marauder - sooooo cool!) Seems a kid left it for hydro testing. May 1 is 6 months so the shop will sell it to me.

I hate springer guns. So noisy and the spring vibrating affects accuracy. CO2 or PCP is nice - no recoil. Nitrogen cylinder break barrel is also cool. Over 1000fps but has a recoil.

Now exploring high speed CO2 pistols so I can jump out of bed at 5am to catch a raccoon really fast. Evenings sitting and waiting rifles will be good.

Some of those pellets in a 1000fps gun are really deadly. Then get the ones that say 20% faster and you're beyond the speed of sound. One is lead, tipped with a steel BB. WOW! Does that really hit hard. And accurate, too.

Pretty cool? Heh?

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[adidasguy]

Jazus Furgin H Krist..."he finally crawled off and died"...what is wrong with you Yanks!!!!!!! You'll get yours, mate......

If there is karma, who returns the bad karma to the raccoon that just ate my Koi or came into the house and made a mess of the cat food bowls?

in Seattle, raccoons are a pest. If trapped, they must be killed. So why not eliminate the unnecessary step of trapping them and just kill them outright? If you want a raccoon tail for your car antenna or two - one for each end of your handlebars - I'll see what I can do.

[adidasguy]

any paintball store/field will fill c02 tanks as well if their are any of those that are closer than the scuba shop.

Gave up on CO2. Too far away (10 miles) Local dive shop a few minutes away will fill the Benjamin 72 cui air tanks to 3000 psi in a couple minutes for $5. Took one there today. he says CO2 is getting harder to find. High pressure air is easy.
Kind of surprised him with that small 72 cui 3000 psi aluminum tank. He thought that was cool. Should get 6 to 8 fills of the Benjamin Marauder from one tank. Cheaper than CO2 cylinders, though not as convenient.

There is a shooting range on Vashon Island. Looking into joining so I can take a ferry ride over. Ride. Shoot. Ride. Lunch. Ride. Wine tasting. Ferry ride home. What could be a better day?

[noworries]

Nah, won't take up your kind offer, Adi, there's a better place for you to stick things.

[Badot]

There is a shooting range on Vashon Island. Looking into joining so I can take a ferry ride over. Ride. Shoot. Ride. Lunch. Ride. Wine tasting. Ferry ride home. What could be a better day?

And of course, you know we'll need pics once you get the gun rack on a bike 

[adidasguy]

Which is better?
Sig p229.  Or.  Glock 9mm ?

[Kijona]

Which is better?
Sig p229.  Or.  Glock 9mm ?

Which Glock? 19? 17?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HKKLbxT8VQ - Sig P229
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8-h7KqI5a8 - Glock 19

[Bluesmudge]

I think I need some. I have all the GS500 parts I need. Time to start collecting something else.
Send any c/o the Bike Cave. 

Ha! Uh oh, we are on to a new hobby now  Just make sure you kill those coons with the first shot. I hate the idea of using a gun that might not kill the animal outright.
The CT-110 I just sold had a rifle rack on the front forks. I used that to go target shooting with my 10/22 in the national forests.

[yamahonkawazuki]

Or one of these

[Kiwingenuity]

Which is better?
Sig p229.  Or.  Glock 9mm ?

For casual shooting, I would go for the Glock 17.

Haven't used a 229 myself, the 226 is a superb 9mm. Since a 226 is the better part of almost $2500 here (new) compared to $800 (new) for a G17, most people go for the glock and it does the job just fine in the right hands.

I own a generation 1 glock 17, and my brother has a generation 2 which has had a little work done on polishing the innards - is quite respectable in terms of accuracy and feel compared to the 226 (just not as heavy as a 226 since the Glock is polymer and the 226 is not so much).  If you want something far more fun, my brother has a 1910 FN 9mm short - single stack mag, tiny little thing which is the most accurate little 9mm I have ever used (and anyone who ever uses it can't help grinning like a Cheshire cat after using it).