Ka-Blooie! ... now what?

[bombsquad83]

What's the story here?

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=60203.0

[Phil B]

Bent the actual rearset?  I'm curious to see a pic.
....
Many new(ish) riders go through the soul-searching period after their first get-off of any consequence.  This is when you decide if you're a motorcyclist or not.  If you decide that it's not for you, fair enough.  But don't let the cost of minor repairs play into it.

Actually, this is my SECOND one. the first one was much worse. I dont think my tendon has still fully healed, after almost a year.
This one, was trivial, due to improved gear.


The footpeg holder... basically, same thing happened as in my last one, only not as bad.
the peg bent FORWARD instead of flexing the way it's "suppose" to go, and so it bent the side part of the "U" that it sits in.

Unlike the other time though, at least the main part connected to the frame didnt bend. So maybe I can bend it back.

[Lucifurious]

Man up or give up!

You seem to be more worried about how you look than the love of the ride, I may be wrong.

If looking good is important, get a new bike.  If riding is important, fix it, and get back on the road.

I personally don't care what my bike looks like to others, my tail light is what most people see anyways and that's the way I like it.

It may be an expensive lesson, but those are the ones we learn best from.

Ride on

[comradeiggy]

You say you have minor cosmetic damage and then declare your bike "totalled"? Lol.

[BockinBboy]

Phil, Please don't tell me you tried this...

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=60543.0

Certainly glad you are okay.  Do yourself a favor and sit on your thoughts for awhile.  If evertime it looks nice out and you think of riding before you think of your lowside, then you can really start thinking about what you should do with your bike.  But one thing is for certain, you don't want to psych yourself out and you need to get back on a bike soon if you feel you want to continue riding.

- Bboy

[Bluesmudge]

We also haven't talked about why you "dropped" the bike at 30 mph. Have you learned anything from this?
make sure you can correct whatever went wrong so that it doesn't happen again. And remember, crashing is okay, almost everybody does it at some point.

I am only a little ashamed to say I have crashed 3 times on the street, and each one has taught me something. I am a much safer rider today because of those harsh lessons.

[ohgood]

looks like a typical drop with some scratches. i'd ride it as is, after checking for safety. if everything still holds fluids and doesn't have large shards of metal pointing at you, just ride. it's cheaper this way.

[Bluesmudge]

I still ride around on a bike that used to look like this:

And ended up looking like this:



Much worse than your damage and it only cost me a couple hundred to get it looking good and ridable again.

[Phil B]

We also haven't talked about why you "dropped" the bike at 30 mph. Have you learned anything from this?
make sure you can correct whatever went wrong so that it doesn't happen again. And remember, crashing is okay, almost everybody does it at some point.

I am only a little ashamed to say I have crashed 3 times on the street, and each one has taught me something. I am a much safer rider today because of those harsh lessons.

Mm... did I learn something?  well, yes and no.
I was attempting a slightly different riding style around the corner.. but I think I may also have been holding onto the brake a bit, and may have squeezed the silly thing without meaning to.

So not sure which one I goofed on.
But I do know both are bad now 

I think the big lesson here is, I need to quit "experimenting". but the trouble is, I'm not sure I'm self-disciplined enough to do so
and/or dont change your handling decisions mid-turn.

to B.B.:  no, I dont think I was at "max lean", or that other stuff.

I did learn something else though:
Find someplace to brace your leg :-/

I had my knee out on the turn...  on the way to the lowside, my knee (with puck on it) touched down, but wasnt braced against anything. So bike kept going down towards the asphalt.
I think if it was properly braced against the bike, we would have recovered.
For the record, no I was not actually trying to "get a knee down". But ironically, if I was prepared to do so, perhaps things would have gone better.

but I also think I need to not do any experiments myself to find out 
Pay for track school, or quit messing around, I think is the biggest takeaway from this.

[bombsquad83]

but I also think I need to not do any experiments myself to find out 
Pay for track school, or quit messing around, I think is the biggest takeaway from this.

One gold star for that realization.

[dougdoberman]

We also haven't talked about why you "dropped" the bike at 30 mph. Have you learned anything from this?
make sure you can correct whatever went wrong so that it doesn't happen again. And remember, crashing is okay, almost everybody does it at some point.

I am only a little ashamed to say I have crashed 3 times on the street, and each one has taught me something. I am a much safer rider today because of those harsh lessons.

Mm... did I learn something?  well, yes and no.
I was attempting a slightly different riding style around the corner.. but I think I may also have been holding onto the brake a bit, and may have squeezed the silly thing without meaning to.

So not sure which one I goofed on.
But I do know both are bad now 

I think the big lesson here is, I need to quit "experimenting". but the trouble is, I'm not sure I'm self-disciplined enough to do so
and/or dont change your handling decisions mid-turn.

to B.B.:  no, I dont think I was at "max lean", or that other stuff.

I did learn something else though:
Find someplace to brace your leg :-/

I had my knee out on the turn...  on the way to the lowside, my knee (with puck on it) touched down, but wasnt braced against anything. So bike kept going down towards the asphalt.
I think if it was properly braced against the bike, we would have recovered.
For the record, no I was not actually trying to "get a knee down". But ironically, if I was prepared to do so, perhaps things would have gone better.

but I also think I need to not do any experiments myself to find out 
Pay for track school, or quit messing around, I think is the biggest takeaway from this.

What do you mean, your leg wasn't braced against anything?  Was your foot not on the peg?  Was your leg not attached to your body which was sitting on the seat?

That said, saving yourself with your knee isn't something that most riders are gonna be able to do regardless.


A track school is a great idea. 

If you haven't check them out already though, there's reading material that can point you down the right path even before you get on a track to improve your skills.

Sport Riding Techniques by Nick Ienatsch]http://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338859828&sr=8-1]Sport Riding Techniques by Nick Ienatsch

Total Control by Lee Parks  Parks' Total Control class may actually be a better riding class to take before one takes a track class.   

Smooth Riding by Reg Pridmore

And, of course, Keith Code's A Twist of the Wrist Volumes I & II.   Wading through his hippy-dippy prose is a right of passage for anyone who wants to ride a bike hard. 

All riders should read also Proficient Motorcycling & its sequel.  Doesn't matter if you're a hard twisties rider, or a gentle tourer.

[mister]

No bracing? What, you trying that half-a-leg-hanging-in-the-breeze things some of the motogp guys do just before a corner?

Michael

[Phil B]

Update, as per my other thread:

turns out front right fork tube is bent.
So back to my original musings, of "now what"?
sigh...

[bombsquad83]

New fork tube from adidasguy?

I'm really not sure why you are asking all of us about this.  It's ultimately up to you whether to part the bike out, sell as whole parts bike, or fix it and ride.  Figure out what it's worth to you in all those scenarios and reconcile in your own mind what your course of action is.

[Bluesmudge]

adidasguy has a pile of forks. I've seen 'em. I'm sure he could hook you up for a reasonable price if you decide to get the bike running again