Watch out for animals on the road.

[jdoorn14]

Tard Farm candidate?

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[jestercinti]

Tard Farm candidate?

Never in my wildest dreams did I think that one of my threads (yep, I started this one folks) would end up like this.

Let the debate continue...

[The Buddha]

The day before I was to leave California for good one dumb dog ran under the rear wheels of my truck ... and when the owner came to pick it up, it was very much alive, like maybe a broken leg it bit her year off. I get out of my truck and am afraid to get anywhere near the house cos there was like 20 dogs going nuts and one dog and one human covered in blood. The cops came (luckily one of them who was following me had a cell and calls cops - BTW it was a suburban traffic jam on saturday morning then - barely 10 mph and dog uns under the rear wheel of the truck) anyway, I had to swear up and down I didn't hit the woman, who I have no idea is saying what to the cops.

Anyway dogs and cats are liable to get into traffic as is any damn animal there is, domestic or otherwise. You wanna hold on to them you need a fence, heck kids need a fence if you're not going to be there with them when they are in your yard. I know of 3 people who have been hit by cars, 1 was hit when she was 10 and she's 12 now seems alright though her parents need to be tossed in jail for various other issues IMHO, one was hit when she was 8-9 and has the brains of a 9yr old and she's like 20, and a third was hit when she was 12 and @ around 50 now she's - well fine but she likes my dumb jokes and smokes a lot.  She was my ex-co worker who said her friends @ school told her she can cross the road the cars will stop for her.

Definitely serious and definitely need to keep em fenced or closely supervised.

Cool.
Buddha.

[Kijona]

I'm pretty sure it's not a given right to have your animals roam free on other people's property. Fixed or not, I don't want your animals on my property tearing my stuff up. I don't want to smell cat piss when I walk out my front door. I don't want them digging around in my vegetable garden and shitting in it. I don't want to have to dispose of bird, squirrel, chipmunk, mice, rat, etc. corpses because you let your cat run free. Don't make YOUR pets MY problem. Of course, I'm speaking about anybody that lets their cats roam free, not YOU personally, but you get what I mean.

The only argument anybody can ever come up with to defend the idea of letting their cats roam is "but I don't want to make them stay in the house, they need to be free!" WELL then don't f'ing get one. It's freaking simple.

[Toogoofy317]

Uhm, Akasha goes in the backyard and the garage. But knows to go no where near the road. She has a pet door for day time but at 2100 she knows it's time to come in and is usually inside the house either 10 minutes before or 10 minutes after. I'm sure the furniture would be torn to shreds if we never let her out because she loves hunting in the backyard. This makes her happy and since she doesn't go into other people's yard I feel she is safe. I enjoy having my "patrol kitty" in the garage watching me work on Flick!

I'm amazed the thread has gotten to this point. I take that back no I'm not the most benign things such as mourning the loss of a pet turn into flame wars. The OP wasn't blaming the driver of the car for killing his cat. He was trying to remind us that there are animals out on the road weather it is dog, cats, birds, or in my case a vulture dropping roadkill in my face!

BTW Buddha why didn't you do turtle rescue. Instead of wondering how he's going to make it to the other side help a poor guy out. Anytime I can safely I will stop and help them to the other side. Anytime, I see roadkill it makes me a little sad because I'm an animal lover and we are the ones intruding on their territory! Been driving/riding for 16 years and have not hit an animal yet. And I like to keep it that way.

I'll give Akasha an extra hug before I leave today!

Mary

[The Buddha]

Tortoise rescue ... I was near about sure he was nailed by the 18 wheeler following me ... besides one of these bloody things crawled into my front area last year and any attempt to rescue the bugger was met with attempted bites to our fingers. Then we managed to get it onto the yard and it was in the shell, and we rolled it with our feet to the street, and the bugger 2 mins later was headed toward the house again. 4 attempts before it went across the road, and we spent 20 mins directing traffic. Sadly I dont think I'd be posting this verbose description if this tortoise was 1/2 as obsitinate that that previous one. Good recipie to get yourself n ailed by an 18 wheeler.

And odd as it seems today and rabbit - a small one, the size of a rat - literally ran from the field to my right perpendicular to my direction of travel on the road like it was racing me, and I slowed and it clean got between my 2 front wheels and out between the left front and rear ...

Sorry I think in this story the hare wins.

Cool.
Buddha.

[VerdonD952]

this is what happens when you put a leash on a cat....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIoOJKLHeY0

[dam]

I'm pretty sure it's not a given right to have your animals roam free on other people's property. Fixed or not, I don't want your animals on my property tearing my stuff up. I don't want to smell cat piss when I walk out my front door. I don't want them digging around in my vegetable garden and shitting in it. I don't want to have to dispose of bird, squirrel, chipmunk, mice, rat, etc. corpses because you let your cat run free. Don't make YOUR pets MY problem. Of course, I'm speaking about anybody that lets their cats roam free, not YOU personally, but you get what I mean.

The only argument anybody can ever come up with to defend the idea of letting their cats roam is "but I don't want to make them stay in the house, they need to be free!" WELL then don't f'ing get one. It's freaking simple.

I live out in the country. Here cats roam if they aren't indoor cats. There are a lot of cats that live in the barn of most every farm. they frequently show up here on my property. they don't tear up anything or leave any presents or piss/shaZam! where I would ever know about it. do I mind them? Why should I? I have an older cat that used to go out daily. She lost a back leg due to a car most likely. She got along fine on 3 legs and was still one of the fastest things out there and a damn good hunter. DON'T try to tell me that cat's belong inside and shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the great outdoors. like lots of other animals that roam the woods

[ojstinson]

Can we safely assume that she lost the leg while outside?----I rest my case.

[VerdonD952]

Agreed Dam,

growing up with barn cats, i have witnessed first hand the amazing hunting and survival skills of cats.  They have very....VERY sharp claws and teeth, they are among the top of the food chain in most settings.  Not the very top, but damn close.  you worry about dogs and birds and foxes and such.  If the cat cant escape the dog then it was probably fat and slow.  Like wise with foxes, they are fast and smart, smarter then dogs by far, but still have yet to see one take down a cat. they just don't have the agility. and i don't know of any bird (hawk, eagle, or other) that prey on cats....come on!  Cats by design are predators, and evolution has given them a great skill set and survival instincts. and if you don't believe in "evil-ution" (quoted from my friend) then god did a damn good job.  (please don't flame me for that last comment, i am trying to please everyone.  this is no place to religion wars)  I would even go as far as saying that the Cat species would survive longer then humans if it were put to that.  very resourceful animals.

ok im done!

::Side Note::
was listening to Elvis Durans morning show today, their prank call was to an old women who hated cats on her lawn....oh god!!!  I had to pull over i was laughing so hard.  Love old people.

Can we safely assume that she lost the leg while outside?----I rest my case.

no it lost it in a blender accident while making margaritas....heres your sign!

[dam]

Can we safely assume that she lost the leg while outside?----I rest my case.

I guess I should never go outside, something bad might happen to me

[ojstinson]

Just the knee jerk reaction I expected from someone who just got owned----with emphasis on the jerk.

[ojstinson]

Verdun, got news for you buddy, Raccoons and owls take thousands of feral and domestic cats a year in rural areas, the feral cats are as tough as they come but a large male coon will walk through anything less that a Bobcat and disembowel it in seconds, they eat only the choice organs and leave the rest. A large owl will hit a cat silently at night from above like a hammer and kill the stunned animal in seconds. Fights with feral cats  kill and infect domestic cats in large numbers, dogs kill and maim domestic cats, they usually don't mess with feral cats. Domestic cats by and large are no match for anything that lives in the wild except song birds and mice. We definitely need to keep those songs birds in check, they are a very real threat.

[VerdonD952]

ojsimpson,

i was referring to harden barn cats, not fluffy your soft pawed pussycat. 

also...survival of the fit.  its the circle of life...one must kill to survive.  if one accepts that (not saying you have to OJ) then it makes life a little easier.

also, you should probably lock you dogs and cats up while you vacuum, a hit and run from a Dyson can be messy!  Also don't wear heals around animals, as they are a fatal combinations, every year tens of cats suffer and die from being stepped on by stilettos. One must also be mindful of sharp corners, splinters from hardwood floors, really clean glass doors, stink bugs and power cords.  Advil is another killer of house cats....REALLY!

I would also like to see stats, and a work sited page for all your claims. Something like a National Geo special on Owls and their natural prey of Cats.  Otherwise ill assume you are pulling figures and numbers out of thin air. 

and yes, song birds are a menace, they keep me up at night.  especially that damn mockingbird...if my cat dosent get him the .22 will!

[ojstinson]

I give you factual information and opinion on the hazards of letting your cats out, do with it what you will.

[dam]

I give you factual information and opinion on the hazards of letting your cats out, do with it what you will.

Just keep repeating that, maybe somebody will believe it.

[codajastal]

ojsimpson,

i was referring to harden barn cats, not fluffy your soft pawed pussycat. 

also...survival of the fit.  its the circle of life...one must kill to survive.  if one accepts that (not saying you have to OJ) then it makes life a little easier.

also, you should probably lock you dogs and cats up while you vacuum, a hit and run from a Dyson can be messy!  Also don't wear heals around animals, as they are a fatal combinations, every year tens of cats suffer and die from being stepped on by stilettos. One must also be mindful of sharp corners, splinters from hardwood floors, really clean glass doors, stink bugs and power cords.  Advil is another killer of house cats....REALLY!

I would also like to see stats, and a work sited page for all your claims. Something like a National Geo special on Owls and their natural prey of Cats.  Otherwise ill assume you are pulling figures and numbers out of thin air. 

and yes, song birds are a menace, they keep me up at night.  especially that damn mockingbird...if my cat dosent get him the .22 will!

[Huff1371]

wow...almost surprised this is still going.But wht the hell.
So a coon CAN easily kill a cat. No doubt about it. But this only would happen if the cat cornered it. I've seen it. BUT I have serious doubts that a coon would EVER prey on a cat. It just wouldn't be worth the effort for a mostly scavenging animal to take on something like a cat. Regardless, who really gives a sh!t. What we all should really worry about is the Eastern Winged Jackelope. These are nasty carnivores full of hate and discontent and capable of utter distruction.
But really, for anyone to get butt-hurt over the great indoor/outdoor cat debate is probably the dumbest thing I've heard. It's a cat. If it wants to keep the songbird population in check, oh-well. If it runs into my yard and gets eaten because my dog like the taste of...well, you know. OH-FREAKIN-WELL. It really sucks for anyone to lose a pet but to b!tch and moan about how people keep their animals is quite we tar did. sorry for the rant.

[ojstinson]

I agree, one of the dumbest freakin threads yet, guy lets his cat roam then bitches and moans that it got killed, he'll probably get another and do the same. This has gotten to be as endless and boring as the proverbial God/No God and Liberal/conservative debates------no one from either side EVER convinces the other side of anything. Got to admit that I got caught up in the argument for the sake of argument challenge but I really think it has run it's retched course.

I typed in Raccoons eating cats and got this.


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Raccoons Eating Pet Cats In South Bay
Monday, June 26, 2006
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June 26 - KGO (KGO) -- Residents in one South Bay neighborhood are on alert for vicious raccoons.

Neighbors are posting flyers in Cupertino, warning people to bring their pets in at night. Hungry and aggressive raccoons have killed and eaten three cats within the past several weeks.

Jackie Jackson, concerned pet owner: "All the rains during the winter, it didn't produce the fruit. So they have nothing to eat right now, so they're eating animals."

This is not an isolated case. People in Los Altos are also reporting losing animals to raccoons.

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[Huff1371]

I really don't think you get it. Verdon , maybe you could help elaborate the fact that shaZam! happens. That isolated cases of a rabid coon eating a cat doesn't mean the racoon is a fierce predator of fluffy.