Knocking at 10,xxx miles.Resolved

[robfriedenberger]

The oil looked fine when I dumped it, it was about 2.5qt it was showing up on the dip stick in the cross hatched area. He said that he changed it roughly 2k miles before I got it, like I said though there wasn't any flakes that I found. Didn't pull the valve cover last night due to it still being hot. When I had time to do it. I took a video instead, also its raining today so ill be taking the Silverado to work so I should be able to pull the valve cover tonight.

I know its frowned upon but how bad is it to pull the valve cover warm/hot?

The youtube video is processing so ill let it go for now ill check back once I get to work.

Video posted!

http://youtu.be/EQwUkF8s5Y0

[robfriedenberger]

My engine number is M504-107959 so I guess it could also be the cams walking noise

[The Buddha]

I've pulled the valve cover when hot ... yea you want forget that experience as long as you live ...
BTW you have a long flat screwdriver - 18" - 2 ft - gonna need that to shut off tank petcock.
And a lot of courage and pain tolerance ... why you wanna measure valve clearance when hot ? go on do it my friend ...
Cool.
Buddha.

[Janx101]

I know its frowned upon but how bad is it to pull the valve cover warm/hot?

a hot valve cover?.. dont know about that.. but i would believe buddha on it eh!

however... vague comparison... .... i was out and about the other week... wanted to try different preload settings on the katana shock... i have a original shock adjuster 2 piece tool from the little onboard kit...

and being an impatient lad.... pulled up... 'waited almost 2 mins for the exhaust to cool'.... cos you have to slide the tool in right between the exhaust and frame...

it went like this...

"ok... slide it through there carefully.. get the hook onto th... sizzle.. f%$k !!... onto the slot.... now adjust the handle for better grip.. dammit too far in.. ok bac... sizzle ...f%$k!!... ok back onto the right length... pull it around till it stops.. unhook and go back for the next slo... sizzle f%$k !!! ... next slot and adjust handle again.. sizzle f%$k !!! .. clunk... ok... thats one preload setting change... right.. lets ride!" .. 

cool engine and bits are nice to work on.. if you have any option to do so!!

[robfriedenberger]

That was more so in case I ran into some free time after rideing, well the plan for today was to get to it after work, to my surprise my truck had been broken into after work so after dealing with the insurance company and police, I'm out of time for today, any one have any thoughts on my video ?

[robfriedenberger]

Hey all,

I finally got some time on my hands to get messing around with the bike, So I puled the seat, pulled the two tank bolts wiggled the tank backwards, pop and than gas was poring all over the floor until I could shut off the gas......My fuel lines were so bad that they just rotted and moving the tank broke them off. Than I pulled the breather cover, than the valve cover bolts all five of them......In my experience valve covers usually pop right off not really any thing to them. I fought with it for about 10 minutes with no luck. So I broke out the mallet and broke a few things....by accident. At least its not any thing really bad.

Any suggestions on the valve cover?

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[robfriedenberger]

Heres the stuff I broke, and the valve cover that I cant get off.



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[robfriedenberger]

....its been a long day, I missed one screw

[bmf]

How big was the malet?


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[robfriedenberger]

Rather large 18" long 4" at the head 4lbs,

So I didn't find the factory specs on valves before I called it quits for the night but the cam chain appears to be fine, there isn't any end play with the cams, so im thinking its the starter clutch assembly that's causing the issues.

[The Buddha]

Rather large 18" long 4" at the head 4lbs,

So I didn't find the factory specs on valves before I called it quits for the night but the cam chain appears to be fine, there isn't any end play with the cams, so im thinking its the starter clutch assembly that's causing the issues.

Next time you need to use dynamite OK, a small bundle 7 sticks oughta do it. 

Cool.
Buddha.

[yamahonkawazuki]

the mistakes that end up costing you time and or money, are usually the ones you wont repeat . yes ive made these before. i think we all have

[robfriedenberger]

Thank god I don't think any of these mistakes are going to cost me any money!

The carb vacuum line might, but I am going to glue it, should be fine!

[Dr.McNinja]

Thank god I don't think any of these mistakes are going to cost me any money!

The carb vacuum line might, but I am going to glue it, should be fine!

Why wouldn't you just buy a new line?

[robfriedenberger]

I did buy new lines today......Sorry its the fitting for the line, I need to find a replacement fitting BTW so if any one can find a part number that would be great. I could not....the bike runs fine with out it.

I just closed every thing up, valves were with in spec .03-.05 on the intake, and .8 on the exhaust, the CCT checked out fine did not seam broken and the chain was taunt. So back to the drawing board, I did had the extra large screw driver out so I did take a listen (which would of saved me from all this but The fuel lines needed replaced).  I found that the sound is more so of the left side cover, the right side cover you can still hear it but its faint.

Any ideas? Starter bolts? 

[robfriedenberger]

Think I found the issue, any thoughts?

[Toiletbooger]

Cam chain noise will obviously sound like a chain - like a metal chain dragging over a metal grate ...
Cool.
Buddha.

Well i think that explains the problem I've been having. I dropped my bike about 2 months ago and noticed a sound which fits your description most noticeable at around 4500rpm when riding.

It hasn't got any worse, i changed the oil and filter and the noise hasn't changed at all.

Should i be changing a part out asap?

[Craftylilalien]

Well i think that explains the problem I've been having. I dropped my bike about 2 months ago and noticed a sound which fits your description most noticeable at around 4500rpm when riding.

It hasn't got any worse, i changed the oil and filter and the noise hasn't changed at all.

Should i be changing a part out asap?

Closely watching this, matches my situation almost exactly (I had a very harshly worded disagreement with a kangaroo at around 40km/h), same kind of noise, filter and oil changed, noise seems almost the same. Although for me it's been around 3 months. Is the noise indicative of the cam chain needing adjustment/replacing?

[robfriedenberger]

Haha, so it seams like once these bikes are dropped the same thing happens. The PO of my bike dropped the bike in the "drive way"  to much damage to be so but I got a good deal so I wasn't worried about it. I'm waiting on new gaskets, pins, rollers, springs, before I put it back together so I should have an update on Tuesday for you guys.

[Craftylilalien]

Closely watching this, matches my situation almost exactly (I had a very harshly worded disagreement with a kangaroo at around 40km/h), same kind of noise, filter and oil changed, noise seems almost the same. Although for me it's been around 3 months. Is the noise indicative of the cam chain needing adjustment/replacing?

It appears I've misled you gents, through my own imagination. I just discovered a video I took when I first got the bike, roughly 9,900km's ago, and it had the EXACT same noise as I'm getting when I ride it now. So my noise is not because of my drop, might be perhaps from a drop from the PO, which was apparent when I bought the bike, or perhaps is a noise the bikes just have...?