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Started by 1971_AMC_GUY, January 18, 2014, 12:51:46 AM

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1971_AMC_GUY

I bought a 1990 GS500 that had the engine rebuilt and wasn't running. It has 24,718 miles on it currently. had many issues to start with as the previous owner decided to make a bobber. I know the frame petcock has a bad diaphragm and haven't located a replacement yet. When trying to start it it pops loudly out the exhaust pipe. If you hold the throttle wide open no pops but still won't start. I have already been through both carbs and they are clean and set properly. I could really use some advise. :confused: :technical:
Old Bike Collector
1978 Honda CB400T, 1979 Honda CM185T, 1974 Suzuki GT185, 1990 Suzuki GS500E

RIP Patrick "Adidasguy" Lajko, I miss you bro.

Janx101

Don't hold the throttle open ... Fresh fuel.. Clean plugs..make sure your fuel is flowing... Full choke ...

... But definitely don't hold the throttle open ...

The rest of the tech stuff I'll leave to the tech boys...

But popping.... Compression issues maybe?

1971_AMC_GUY

Okay if I go full choke and close throttle it backfires badly out the exhaust. Fuel is fresh and plugs are clean.
Old Bike Collector
1978 Honda CB400T, 1979 Honda CM185T, 1974 Suzuki GT185, 1990 Suzuki GS500E

RIP Patrick "Adidasguy" Lajko, I miss you bro.

Janx101

Hrrrm ... I'm not the one to diagnose this.... If you search up on faulty/stuck/broken valves though? ... This time of day is normally quiet on the forum... Give it an hour or 2 and they should start filtering back on again...

From my very limited engine know how... Backfiring = mixture is really out of whack OR timing is out of whack OR valve train is out of whack? .. I think...

There will be suitably qualified users on soon I reckon... With actual 'engine open' experience...  :thumb:

... And some engineers too...  ;)

Old Mechanic

Check compression and cam timing.

regards
Mech

Suzuki Stevo

#5
Plus Juan on the cam timing, possible tight valves  :dunno_black:

(When I wrenched for a living...a lot of my time was spent undoing previous work from people that thought they knew what they where doing...anything is possible in a situation like yours when buying used)
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1971_AMC_GUY

I have verified and adjusted the valve shims to correct clearance, timing marks are dead on. I changed out to a closer exhaust to stock rather than the shorty that the previous owner had installed. Main jets are 2 sizes over stock. Wiring has been closely examined for any damage, none found. One of the carb diaphragm covers is damaged but i sealed it to prevent vacuum leaks until I can find a replacement.
Old Bike Collector
1978 Honda CB400T, 1979 Honda CM185T, 1974 Suzuki GT185, 1990 Suzuki GS500E

RIP Patrick "Adidasguy" Lajko, I miss you bro.

1971_AMC_GUY

Okay so just pulled both plugs and it is only firing when I let off the start button. Possible faulty CDI? Any thoughts?
Old Bike Collector
1978 Honda CB400T, 1979 Honda CM185T, 1974 Suzuki GT185, 1990 Suzuki GS500E

RIP Patrick "Adidasguy" Lajko, I miss you bro.

Suzuki Stevo

Quote from: 1971_AMC_GUY on January 18, 2014, 03:22:17 PM
Okay so just pulled both plugs and it is only firing when I let off the start button. Possible faulty CDI? Any thoughts?

Battery
I Ride: at a speed that allows me to ride again tomorrow AN400K7, 2016 TW200, Boulevard M50, 2018 Indian Scout, 2018 Indian Chieftain Classic

1971_AMC_GUY

Brand new battery and testing good. Fully charged.
Old Bike Collector
1978 Honda CB400T, 1979 Honda CM185T, 1974 Suzuki GT185, 1990 Suzuki GS500E

RIP Patrick "Adidasguy" Lajko, I miss you bro.

Suzuki Stevo

Quote from: 1971_AMC_GUY on January 18, 2014, 04:30:39 PM
Brand new battery and testing good. Fully charged.

Hummm, sounded like the classic "I have enough voltage to spin the motor, but not enough left to saturate the coils"
I Ride: at a speed that allows me to ride again tomorrow AN400K7, 2016 TW200, Boulevard M50, 2018 Indian Scout, 2018 Indian Chieftain Classic

1971_AMC_GUY

I went through the whole harness again and reconnected and I did find a bad spark plug. CDI seems to be firing again so as soon as the new plugs get home I will post the results.
Old Bike Collector
1978 Honda CB400T, 1979 Honda CM185T, 1974 Suzuki GT185, 1990 Suzuki GS500E

RIP Patrick "Adidasguy" Lajko, I miss you bro.

1971_AMC_GUY

The old Suzuki lives again. I will post pictures of the beast tomorrow after I take it first my first test ride since I got the bike. Thank you all for your wisdom.
Old Bike Collector
1978 Honda CB400T, 1979 Honda CM185T, 1974 Suzuki GT185, 1990 Suzuki GS500E

RIP Patrick "Adidasguy" Lajko, I miss you bro.

Golly

Had the same issue. New cdi fixed it

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1971_AMC_GUY

Yeah it looks like my CDI is fried.
Old Bike Collector
1978 Honda CB400T, 1979 Honda CM185T, 1974 Suzuki GT185, 1990 Suzuki GS500E

RIP Patrick "Adidasguy" Lajko, I miss you bro.

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